Very hard choice. I tried to be unbiased as possible because I have my own contention on this. Dogma's initial post could've been better. First 3 paragraphs were telling us what everyone already knew. His other posts however were much more detailed. Especially his rebuttal to Ballerman which I saw to be the strongest post in this thread. Ballerman's first post was strong but after that he faded. Especially when he started using information which is false (I'll clarify if it be neeed).Winner- Dogma
This was very close, but I think that dogma edged out ballerman in this one. Ballermans first post was very strong. He had good points for every playoff series that the Spurs played in, but after that his rebutles were weak, and he kinda faded off from what I saw in his first post. On top of that dogma stayed solid throughout, and made valid points in all of his posts. Congrats to both of you for making it this far. No hard feelings.
I like the way Dogma defended his side, Ballerman's opening was a solid start, but then somehow Dogma just started proving ballerman wrong again and again most of the time. I also felt ballerman sometimes went off topic to rebutt his statements/ paragraphs. Actually, in the beginning both of you guys put up great points and it was a fair start. after that the winner did a good job of pointing out who was wrong.My choice: Nba Dogmatist.But I do have to comment on the unique context of both debaters, you both went very deep into each topic, which took a long time and lots of effort on both sides.
Somebody else try and defend an easily worse team to one of the best teams off all time. I dont understand what I am suppossed to do. I would love any of you to try and say how the spurs were a better team than the lakers.
<u>ballerman2112 vs. nba dogmatist</u>Winner: nba dogmatist (6 votes to 1, 2 judges didn't vote but it wouldn't have mattered anyway)Here are what the judges said about the debate:BigMo: In ballerman's debate, I just felt he did a better job at countering dogma's arguments, and providing better reasoning and more clarification as to why the Spurs were better than the '01 Lakers. It seemed Dogma didn't fully understand what ballerman was trying to say at times, and that hurt his ability to counter ballerman's arguments.RaptorsFan: Nba Dogmatist defended the 01 Lakers no matter what ballerman threw at him, he proved in every aspect how they were better than the Spurs. Ballerman also failed to throw in a few facts to support his arguements sometimes. it was a close call, but dogma just defended his side way better.MichaelBryant: Between ballerman2112 and nba dogmatist, dogma wins. It was close, but where ballerman tended to beat around the bush, dogma added facts. He convinced me. Eliiite: nba dogmatist, great points man, I loved how you brought out the overration of technicals, the players of that era, etc. You both are hells of debaters, and I think that either one of you could win it if you werent versing in the semi's. But I gotta give this one to dogma, you defended your points well. Hell you did everything well.Melo061: Very hard choice. I tried to be unbiased as possible because I have my own contention on this. Dogma's initial post could've been better. First 3 paragraphs were telling us what everyone already knew. His other posts however were much more detailed. Especially his rebuttal to Ballerman which I saw to be the strongest post in this thread. Ballerman's first post was strong but after that he faded. Especially when he started using information which is false (I'll clarify if it be neeed).PistonFan11: Ballermans first post was very strong. He had good points for every playoff series that the Spurs played in, but after that his rebutles were weak, and he kinda faded off from what I saw in his first post. On top of that dogma stayed solid throughout, and made valid points in all of his posts. Nitro1118: I feel nba dogmatist made the better points throughout the debate, although ballerman's first post was VERY good. I feel that ballerman missed more points than dogmatist did, and while ballerman put up some great points, dogmatist countered them better than vice versa.------------------------------------------------I just want to say thanks a ton to both dogma and ballerman, both of you provided excellent debates. I now request that neither of you try to argue or counter the judges perspectives, as it is their opinions and they made their judgements off of what you guys put forth. If you felt you put up the better debate, great, then use that as motivation for other debates, but to keep the peace and to end this debate please do not try and argue with the judges.
man, I got fu*kin robbed! haha....whatevs, I feel I put up a better fight then the other two in the semifinals. nothing agaisnt them or anything. I will be very surprised if mr. albino doesn't win in the finals.
