Do you have a penis, Denny? Or a vagina? When you look down, what exists? I've had sex before. I know I have a penis. I know my wife has a vagina. It's pretty apparent they're two very different things. I didn't choose my attachment. My wife didn't choose her lack of one. Are you saying my eyes are lying to me? I think I have a penis, therefore, I have a penis?
On what? I can't answer a dumb post with a dumber point that doesn't relate to what I'm talking about? You're making a giant leap, Holmes.
Denny is intellectually honest. He has a viewpoint, lays it on the table, and debates the hell out of it. In this case, I mostly agree with him. In other cases I completely and utterly think he's wrong, but I like how he chooses his sides on issues totally based on his world view and not based on what side A or side B believe. This I respect.
I already answered. Others see how ridiculous your posts are, why can't you see it. As I said earlier: "I was using biology to simply explain that a penis is a male sexual reproductive organ, while a vagina is a female sexual reproductive organ. There was no form of judgment made, but I simply used a biological descriptor to identify a characteristic. An observation of a characteristic." That's a very big difference. As I said in a previous post, the Nazi's already had identified what would make them superior. They reverse-engineered, starting from what they considering superior, and found the biology to support their already-identified/intended result. They started with the result and then filled in the support. I'm starting with basic biology and making no judgment. Whether the Nazi's were right or wrong doesn't matter, nor does it make any sense in this conversation.
Non answer. I asked if the Nazis' views based on biology are right, wrong, or you tell me. The follow up is if theirs can be wrong, why can't yours? I'll add: If you look at a woman and have to look up her skirt to decide she's a woman, how is that not making a judgment?
Should he argue like MarAzul, adding phrases that connect to nothing? No, he has a point, and he nips and tucks till that point is sleek, slender and would look dashing in a little black number.
I can play this: You made a judgment that the man is a woman. Nazis made judgment that Jews, because of their genes, aren't human. I'm not calling you a Nazi. The neo nazis have a differing opinion. I am not shifting anything here, just asking if their differing opinion is wrong? The next question is if theirs is wrong, why can't yours be?
That's not a non-answer. It's one, irrelevant to the argument. There was no judgment placed. I am not calling anyone anything. I am simply saying how people are identified biologically. Where I'd be making a judgment is if I call the HC queen's gender male. Then, I've called him what I've wanted to call him, and from my own viewpoint, not how he identifies himself. My dad dressed up like a woman for Halloween. Looked pretty convincing. Anyone who saw him that day and assumed he was female was judging him. :MARIS61:
It's Socratic method. In venues where we seek the Truth, we ask questions. When my questions are ducked or twisted out of context or turned into strawmen, I look for another way to get the answer.
He went from talking bigot, to neo-Nazi, to Nazi to? I mean, he doesn't go back and change the previous points, he just bends and bonds them together. Better than MarAzul, no doubt, as I can at least read it.
Are you not calling a woman a man? Even in private. Your dad didn't take hormones to grow breasts, or go about in full drag all the time, change his name from Donald to Donna, seek medical and psychiatric care, etc. Cross dressing and transgender are not the same thing... You would call your dad a man until he calls himself Donna and stops wearing men's clothes, and so on. As far as the homecoming queen is concerned, her male genitals are a freak accident.
And if you don't agree with him he somehow relates your position to that of neo nazi. He has no perspective. Should I tell you to put yourself in Hitler's shoes to have more empathy for him. How did nazi talk come into all this . . . I know he will say to show there is a group that thinks wrong but that at the very least implies groups who don't think like Denny are somehow equivalent to neo nazi thinking???? Just a bad example trying to draw out emotion
