Walmart shelves in Springhill, Mansfield, cleared in EBT glitch

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    MANSFIELD, LA (KSLA) - Shelves in Walmart stores in Springhill and Mansfield, LA were reportedly cleared Saturday night, when the stores allowed purchases on EBT cards even though they were not showing limits.

    The chaos that followed ultimately required intervention from local police, and left behind numerous carts filled to overflowing, apparently abandoned when the glitch-spurred shopping frenzy ended.

    Springhill Police Chief Will Lynd confirms they were called in to help the employees at Walmart because there were so many people clearing off the shelves. He says Walmart was so packed, "It was worse than any black Friday" that he's ever seen.

    Lynd explained the cards weren't showing limits and they called corporate Walmart, whose spokesman said to let the people use the cards anyway. From 7 to 9 p.m., people were loading up their carts, but when the cards began showing limits again around 9, one woman was detained because she rang up a bill of $700.00 and only had .49 on her card. She was held by police until corporate Walmart said they wouldn't press charges if she left the food.

    Lynd says at 9 p.m., when the cards came back online and it was announced over the loud speaker, people just left their carts full of food in the aisles and left.
    "Just about everything is gone, I've never seen it in that condition," said Mansfield Walmart customer Anthony Fuller.

    Walmart employees could still be seen putting food from the carts away as late as Sunday afternoon. "I was just thinking, I'm so glad my mom doesn't work here [Walmart] anymore, that's the only thing I could think about, those employees working, that would have to restock all that stuff," said O.J Evans who took cell phone video of the overflowing shopping carts at the Mansfield Walmart.
    Evans believes it was natural human reaction that led people to fill up their carts during the glitch, but Walmart shoppers Stan and Judy Garcia feel very differently. "That's plain theft, that's stealing that's all I got to say about it," said Garcia.
    Lynd says contrary to rumors, nobody was unruly or arrested and they were mainly there to help prevent shoplifting and theft.
    A dispatcher for Mansfield police also confirms officers were called in for crowd control at the Mansfield Walmart. She said the shelves were cleared out, forcing Walmart to stop selling food at 9 p.m. There were no arrests.

    There was, however, a huge mess left behind. Pictures and videos obtained by KSLA News 12 show aisles packed with shoppers emptying the shelves in Springhill. Another video shows what appear to be at least dozens of overflowing carts left abandoned in the aisles at the Mansfield store, against the backdrop of emptied shelves in the meat department.
    It all happened at the end of a day in which the EBT system went down in several states, including Louisiana. Xerox, a vendor for the EBT system, experienced a power outage while conducting a routine backup test in one of the company's locations. While the system was back up Saturday night, it appears that it was not functioning entirely properly in some areas.

    Kayla Whaling, a spokesperson for Walmart, tells KSLA News 12 that the company was "fully engaged and monitoring the situation and transactions during the outage."

    "We did make the decision to continue to accept EBT cards (and purchases on WIC and SNAP) during the outage so that they could get food for their families."
    Asked whether Walmart would be taking the loss on any food purchased on the cards that did not show limits, or on the perishable food left behind in carts, Whaling would only say that "we monitored transactions during the outage."
    A spokesperson for the Louisiana Department of Children and Family Services says they take all allegations of potential fraud seriously, they are aware of the reports and they will be investigating.


    http://www.kait8.com/story/23679489/walmart-shelves-in-springhill-mansfield-cleared-in-ebt-glitch
     
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    Already given essentially free money to spend......but whatever you get just isn't enough! Unbelievable.
     
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    Wal-Mart allowing this to happen is like leaving out a bowl of candy on your porch on Halloween with a "help yourself" sign. Shit's gonna be gone in no time.

    “Greed is a fat demon with a small mouth and whatever you feed it is never enough.”

    How appropriate.
     
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    Another data point in my belief that the EBT/SNAP system needs to be completely overhauled to become like WIC, which is a fantastic government program that does exactly what it intends to do: provide vouchers for staple items designated by nutritionists to low-income pregnant women and mothers to young children. Dairy, Grains, Vegetables. Instead of a dollar amount that the person can spend freely on whatever food items they want, each person in the program is given vouchers for specific food items, which can be altered or modified based upon age, location, ethnic culture, etc. Basic sustenance that will ensure that the person does not starve and has 3 square meals a day.

    Too bad this thread will ultimately be hijacked by the "QUIT TAKING MY TAX MONEY, LAZY FREELOADERS" crowd with racist and elitist undertones.
     
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    I wondered how long it would be before someone blames the thefts on the business...classic
     
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    Wow. Watched the video. Are there no white folks in those towns, or were they just raised better?

    And is there some hotline or something set up for opportunities like this? How did all these criminals find out so quickly about the glitch and the chance to steal? Had to be someone calling tons of people for this to happen in 2 towns.
     
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    think that perhaps the "hot line" was facebook, twitter, cell texts and calls?
     
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    There was an old white person in line. Also, there was that couple at the end who said it was stealing.
     
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    They made the decision to allow people to use their EBT cards, KNOWING there was no limit. It's right there in the story that was posted.

    "Lynd explained the cards weren't showing limits and they called corporate Walmart, whose spokesman said to let the people use the cards anyway."

    It's up to the EBT users to choose morality or greed; they didn't get to make that decision until that door was opened to them.
     
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    so your boss has you in a position to handle thousands of dollars each day, it is a position where you have control of the books, so by your reasoning it is ok to help your self? pffft
     
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    Show me where I said it was okay to help yourself.
     
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    to quote your post "It's up to the EBT users to choose morality or greed; they didn't get to make that decision until that door was opened to them."

    with that statement you excuse the theft, do you not?
     
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    I don't excuse it. I said it was their choice to take the food or not. But if the store hadn't approved EBT usage at all, they wouldn't be getting anything. That is what I said.
     
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    I am sorry, I don't get that at all with your quote. Again "It's up to the EBT users to choose morality or greed; they didn't get to make that decision until that door was opened to them." Let us break it down.

    It is up to the EBT users to choose morality or greed. Just like you if given the responsibility in your employment.

    They don't get to make that decision until that door was opened. Once again, much like a position of responsibility if gainfully employed.

    so you equate the trust the store imparted upon the client base as the wrong doing? I would counter that if that indeed were the case, I would not trust you to have the responsibility to hand out change at the local Mc Donald's.

    ability to steal does not excuse the wrongdoing
     

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