Why can't they just vote to open the government? http://pjmedia.com/tatler/2013/10/15/the-house-gop-voted-11-times-to-reopen-the-government/
http://washington.cbslocal.com/2013/10/15/pre-shutdown-rule-change-disallows-house-members-calling-vote-on-clean-cr/
here is the WSJ take on it http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10001424052702304561004579137791687537388 and BBC's take on it http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-24543581
http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2013/10/32-republicans-who-caused-the-government-shutdown/280236/ I believe these are the top tea party Representatives.
The whole default thing was/is very concerning. I don't care which side you're on, that shit cannot be allowed to happen.
That's a bit like saying, "Hey this house is a firetrap and a disaster waiting to happen ... here let me show you." and then proceed to bolt the doors with everyone inside, pour gasoline on all of the furniture and throw a lit match
The republicans changed the rules in the House on sept 30th (one day before the government shut down) such that no longer can anyone in the house bring a bill to a vote, only the Speaker, or current acting Speaker, can bring a vote. They also showed the Tea Party had plans to do this back in the Spring of this year. It's not "either side" doing this.
I didn't say either side was doing it. I said I don't care which side your'e on, it can't be allowed to happen.
What exactly happens if the government isn't allowed to borrow beyond the ~$17T it already has? It means they can only spend the $3T or so they get from us. Seems like plenty, when you consider the actual debt payments we are obligated for are in the $400B range. So pay that $400B first and prioritize the rest.
Why? We would be paying every one of our creditors every cent owed. Meanwhile, ObamaCare is the sticking point. http://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/09/30/1242660/-Obamacare-will-double-my-monthly-premium
Kudos to Boehner on this move! http://firstread.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/10/16/20993759-boehner-we-fought-the-good-fight Letting the house be allowed to vote for a bitpartisan bill.
Here is the text of the Senate deal. It is 35 pages, and probably closer to 20 pages of text if printed normal.
18 clowns craving media attention for their campaigns ADDED several hundred million dollars of waste to the national debt. Vote them out.