1. Andrew Bogut2. Marvin Williams3. Deron Williams4. Chris Paul5. Raymond Felton6. Martell Webster7. Charlie Villanueva8. Channing Frye9. Ike Diogu10. Andrew Bynum11. Fran Vasquez12. Yaroslev Korelev13. Sean May14. Rashad McCants15. Antoine Wright16. Joey Graham17. Danny Granger18. Gerald Green19. Hakim Warrick20. Julius Hodge21. Nate Robinson22. Jarrett Jack23. Francisco Garcia24. Luther Head25. Johan Petro26. Jason Maxiell27. Linas Kleiza28. Ian Mahinmi29. Wayne Simien30. David LeeThe first round of this draft is very very deep with not only future stars, but a lot of very solid/quality players. Guys like Andrew Bogut, Marvin Williams, Deron Williams, Chris Paul, Raymond Felton, Charlie Villanueva, Channing Frye, Danny Granger, and Gerald Green all have All-Star potential, maybe Martell Webster as well. Then you have future good contributors like Ike Diogu, Andrew Bynum, Sean May, Antoine Wright, Rashad McCants, Joey Graham, Hakim Warrick, Jarrett Jack, Wayne Simien, and maybe Johan Petro all as future NBA starters and contributors. Then you have guys like Nate Robinson and David Lee who are very high energy players. Then Garcia who is a dynamite shooter when confident, and he will always be a valuable player off the bench. Julius Hodge is a bit of an idiot, so who knows. But Luther Head is a solid combo guard as well, and Jason Maxiell has something in him. I mean all of these guys, with the exception of Mihinmi, Kleiza, and probably Hodge are going to either be stars, starters, or very valuable role players. Also, I know I didn't say anything about Vasquez or Korolev because Vasquez signed a 5 year deal overseas (loser) and I don't know anything about Korolev except that he's an awesome dunker.Now, moving on to the 2nd round:31. Salim Stoudamire32. Daniel Ewing33. Brandon Bass34. CJ Miles35. Ricky Sanchez36. Ersan Ilyasova37. Ronny Turiaf38. Travis Diener39. Von Wafer40. Monta Ellis41. Roko Leni-Ukic42. Chris Taft43. Mile Ilic44. Martynas Andriuskevicius45. Louis Williams46. Erazem Lorbek47. Bracey Wright48. Mickael Gelabale49. Andray Blatche50. Ryan Gomes51. Robert Whaley52. Axel Hervelle53. Orien Greene54. Dijon Thompson55. Lawrence Roberts56. Amir Johnson57. Marcin Gortat58. Uros Slokar59. Cenk Akyol60. Alex AckerA lot of unknown international players, but there are also a lot of contributors (and/or future contributors) in the 2nd round as well. Salim Stoudamire is a great shooter and he contributed a lot lasy year. Daniel Ewing will never fill a stat sheet but he's a high-energy backup type of player in the future. Brandon Bass is a combo forward who played very well at LSU from what I saw. CJ Miles came out of high school, but this kid has a future. Ronny Turiaf is a very high energy nut-case lol, and a very good rebounder who will always contribute intangibles and toughness. Diener may never be an excellent player but his shooting will keep him in the NBA. Monta Ellis has a very bright future, IMO, and I think he can step up and contribute on a decent level as early as this year. He played very well last year and definitely exceeded expectations as a rookie of out HS. Roko Leni-Ukic was drafted by Toronto (was talked about as a top 25 pick pre-draft) and I have seen him play twice: very crafty and a true PG. If he decides he wants to come over to the NBA he could help someone out off the bench. Louis Williams has a solid future as a role player. Andray Blatche will suprise people, watch out, he has potential. We all know about Ryan Gomes, easily the steal of the draft and is already starting on a possible playoff team. Orien Greene contributed a LOT more than people thought, and he is a good energy guy and defender. Amir Johnson is very athletic and he can shoot alright, he might be something decent, same with Alex Acker.I mean you have a lot of quality players in this draft. Is it just me? Am I overrating this draft? Because in my eyes the 2005 draft was very deep and it will produce a fair amount of stars and a lot of contributors (starters and role players).Your thoughts on this?
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ElMaster @ Sep 25 2006, 02:56 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I think it was very deep, but not enough talent in it.I mean superstar talent, like the 03 draft.</div>Well yeah, when you are talking about stars and franchise players, 03 kills 05. But I wasn't comparing it to any other draft, I'm just saying it's very deep and it will produce a lot of contributors.
Ellis will be an all-star at least twice 5 years into his career. He got underplayed last year, and if you've watched him play, you'll see a great pure shooter, a good defender, a good passer, and someone who plays with energy every night. Diogu can contribute as well. He can shoot the ball from ten to fifteen feet, he can post up, he can rebound, he can run the break. Both will thrive in a Nelly offense.
This was a good draft, I'll give it that. Though not everyone in the first round had a deep impact in their rookie season for their own respective teams, but I do expect most of them to eventually make this draft a "look back and say, 'wow!'" type of draft probably 5-6 seasons from this upcoming season. In other words, most of these guys look like name brand players, such as CP3. By "name brand", I mean some clothing company will endorse them or they will become a name in a casual fan's household sometime soon.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CABANGBANG @ Sep 25 2006, 08:30 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Ellis will be an all-star at least twice 5 years into his career. He got underplayed last year, and if you've watched him play, you'll see a great pure shooter, a good defender, a good passer, and someone who plays with energy every night. Diogu can contribute as well. He can shoot the ball from ten to fifteen feet, he can post up, he can rebound, he can run the break. Both will thrive in a Nelly offense.</div>While I agree Monta Ellis is going to be a terrific player, I will definitely have to disagree with him being a 2-time All-Star by his 5th year. I don't know if he'll ever make an All-Star team, but he definitely can. He has all the skills, and I absolutely love his game and work ethic. Like you said: he's a pure shooter, an excellent defender, a good passer, very quick, and he brings a lot of energy. IMO, he will either eventually start with Baron or eventually push him out of town. But again, 2-time All-Star by his 5th year? Very doubtful.I think Ike Diogu has All-Star potential as well. He's big, he can handle playing PF and C offensively (still needs to work on guarding bigger guys), he's a very good rebounder and I believe he averaged 9-10 rpg in college, and like you said he can post up and also is an underrated shooter.Both of these guys will be excellent in Nellie's system, and I can't wait to see them play this season. Golden State isn't winning any titles any time soon (with the make-up of their roster now), but they are certainly going to be fun to watch grow.
Eh. I think it was a weak draft. Aside from Dwight Howard, the last 2 drafts have sucked. Not a lot of talent, really. Just role players at best.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Something-To-Say @ Sep 25 2006, 10:19 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Eh. I think it was a weak draft. Aside from Dwight Howard, the last 2 drafts have sucked. Not a lot of talent, really. Just role players at best.</div>I honestly suggest you either watch more basketball or don't comment on stuff you don't know much about. Also, I will assume you are not counting this year's draft because Howard was in the 04 draft man.Dwight HowardEmeka Okafor (if healthy)Shaun LivingstonBen GordonAndre IguodalaDelonte WestSebastian TelfairAl JeffersonJosh ChildressLuol DengDevin HarrisJosh SmithJameer NelsonKevin MartinThat's all from the 2004 draft alone. Nothing but role players? Haha, you must be high.And I'm not going to go ahead and list the 2005 draft picks again (already done in the opening post). But if you honestly think Dwight Howard is the only real impact player since 2004 you are a complete idiot. A lot of these guys have already contributed too.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CABANGBANG @ Sep 25 2006, 07:30 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Ellis will be an all-star at least twice 5 years into his career. He got underplayed last year, and if you've watched him play, you'll see a great pure shooter, a good defender, a good passer, and someone who plays with energy every night. Diogu can contribute as well. He can shoot the ball from ten to fifteen feet, he can post up, he can rebound, he can run the break. Both will thrive in a Nelly offense.</div>wow, I've heard enough of monta ellis. do you know how many players anyone could say that about? you're just being a homer. no way in hell he's a two-time all-star in 5 years. I'll chop off my hand if he does.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CelticBalla32 @ Sep 25 2006, 07:51 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I honestly suggest you either watch more basketball or don't comment on stuff you don't know much about. Also, I will assume you are not counting this year's draft because Howard was in the 04 draft man.Dwight HowardEmeka Okafor (if healthy)Shaun LivingstonBen GordonAndre IguodalaDelonte WestSebastian TelfairAl JeffersonJosh ChildressLuol DengDevin HarrisJosh SmithJameer NelsonKevin Martin</div>Okafor- injuriesLivingston- not good enough to be more than a 6th man AT BEST. Not even now with T2.Gordon- Mostly just a shooter, decent 4th quarter scorer.Iguodala- decent defense, no offenseWest- not a top 20 guardTelfair- had troubles with portland, we'll see how he does with bostonJefferson- Waiting for his potential...Childress- I dunno, I just hate his faceDeng- Could use some developing still, but may be a decent player soonHarris- K you got me here, Harris is pretty good.Smith- Almost got me, minus the fact that he needs to improve shooting and WORK ETHICNelson- eh.. he's decentMartin- He's coming along, so he'll be decent soon.
Umm... Andre Iguodala has decent O. I don't know what you're on, man. A.I-2 (clever nickname, eh?) just doesn't get the ball in his hand so much. During the All-Star break, AI2 was one of the top "three-point FGs made" players. Mo Cheeks just doesn't give anyone, other than AI and CWebb, the rock on the offensive tip. That is one of the reasons why I believe Philly can't reach the Playoffs anymore. They rely too much on aging players. Even though AI is still top 10 material (30+ ppg and 7-8 apg is pretty great, don't you agree?), he can't do everything by himself when CWebb is having an "off-game".Just force Mo Cheeks to let AI2 score and you'll see great O to add with superb D.
I think any easy way to realize the insane depth of this draft is just to look at how many 2nd rounders are actually signed! I mean there were three that were rotation players as rookies!
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (nba dogmatist @ Sep 25 2006, 09:03 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>wow, I've heard enough of monta ellis. do you know how many players anyone could say that about? you're just being a homer. no way in hell he's a two-time all-star in 5 years. I'll chop off my hand if he does.</div>Have you watched Ellis play single game this year? He was playing out of position, against guys 50 pounds more than him, guys with 3 inches on him, in a slow offense (he excells in fastbreak) and averaged near 15 points a game playing if he got more than 20 minutes.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Something-To-Say @ Sep 26 2006, 12:58 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Okafor- injuriesLivingston- not good enough to be more than a 6th man AT BEST. Not even now with T2.Gordon- Mostly just a shooter, decent 4th quarter scorer.Iguodala- decent defense, no offenseWest- not a top 20 guardTelfair- had troubles with portland, we'll see how he does with bostonJefferson- Waiting for his potential...Childress- I dunno, I just hate his faceDeng- Could use some developing still, but may be a decent player soonHarris- K you got me here, Harris is pretty good.Smith- Almost got me, minus the fact that he needs to improve shooting and WORK ETHICNelson- eh.. he's decentMartin- He's coming along, so he'll be decent soon.</div>Okafor: I'll give you that, but if he gets healthy he's a double-double every nightLivingston: You serious? This kid has all the tools to become a multiple All-StarGordon: DECENT 4th quarter scorer? Try 6MOY as a rookie and a very clutch playerIguodala: try good defense, freak athleticism, and solid offense that's diminished from AI/C-WebbWest: Because he's not a top 20 guard means he isn't a good player? LOL ok? He's a good all around player that can play/guard 2 positions, and very consistantTelfair: was in the wrong system in Portland. He's fit for a running offense (like Boston's), not a half-court set, and a bad organization, like Portland.Jefferson: Has a rare post game for his age, and lost 30 lbs. this summer and got his ankle fixedChildress: I think it's impossible to like Chris Kaman's face, but he's still a good player. Same with Childress, except he looks normal to me...Deng: Rising star, would put up awesome numbers if he wasn't teamed up with so many good playersSmith: Josh or JR? If you are talking about Josh Smith, he has solid work ethic, he's very athletic/long, and a good defender. JR needs to show some work ethic, but not Josh.Nelson: Decent? He's been awesome.Martin: Took on a huge load last year and played excellent. Coming along? Try starting SG in Sacramento this year and a good overall player.
