Who's Our Backup Center......Joel Freeland

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  1. Sean is the Mannion

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    what about pekovic? he's straight old school.
     
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    I don't think it's his work ethic that needs to be "next level". I think it's his defense. And the season's a lot longer if you're eating at Shari's in Boise rather than whatever South Beach steakhouse LMA takes you to.
     
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    Although I don't know who this person is, the Blazers should really consider hiring a defensive minded bigman and basically pay him to go with Leonard all the time. Stop having him shoot 3's.

    Have him basically be his shadow. A defensive bigman would go a LONG way in this league, whereas a poor defending big man, who loves to camp out at the 3 point line rarely makes an impact on this game.

    He has the ability to, just not sure he has anyone to show him how to.
     
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    How are we going to land Jordan after the deadline?

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    Leonard just needs to focus on working on the game that lacks for a big man. He needs to stop thinking he's a guard and work on being a center. I don't care how good his shot is; he needs to be in the paint!
     
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    John Canzano told us it's possible.
     
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    Stotts is now one step closer to being fired.

    Instead of losing games we will now be putting Leonard's development on hold while losing games.
     
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    Well according to Olshey the Blazers and Clippers had discussions about it during the last trade deadline. Discussions can usually come back into play.
     
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    Yeah, because lord knows if it was discussed last year they'll still be interested this year.
     
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    I've been saying this for quite awhile. Meyers Leonard is not a center. They need to stop trying to force him to be a defensive presence inside. This is like trying to force Channing Frye to play center. Meyers is a 7-1 stretch 4. He might be a better backup 4 than Thomas Robinson if the let him compete for that position.
     
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    Mathews and Leonard for Jordan baby!!
     
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    Not sure I am following your logic. You say he is a stretch 4, then you say he might be a better power forward than Robinson.....given the chance. So I guess you are saying you
    prefer a stretch 4 who has no defensive ability to be our back up 4. Personally I would not want that.
     
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    This imo wont last long. I think by late November Leonard will be the clear cut back-up. However, if he isn't... It's seriously time to start trying to shop him.

    I wonder if we could acquire Spencer Hawes if we dangled Leonard and someone else in front of the 76ers. He would be a great backup to Lopez.
     
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    Maybe by late November next year, but not this year. I'm not sure how, in as little as a month, Leonard is going to show the improvements needed to get minutes, that he didn't show in the time that passed since the start of training camp. It's not like Freeland and Leonard were neck and neck, and Leonards game was progressing through the pre-season. Or that he was coming off an injury and still needed time to get his legs under him.

    And it's not like Freeland was a world beater too. He was solid, but if Leonard can't beat Freeland as the backup now, it's not like a month will magically transform him into being the clear cut backup.

    It's a weeeee bit soon to be already shopping him if he's not producing in the first month of his second year in the league. He was a project out of college, anyone expecting him to already be a decent pro after basically 1 year of college ball (he wasn't a regular rotation player, iirc, in his freshman year) is setting him up for failure.

    He needs at least this year to work on defense. That should be his #1-10 goals this year.
     
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    :rolleyes2:
    The defensive responsibilities of a center and PF are a lot different. You won't see Thomas Robinson blocking shots either. But PFs who can hit a lot of jumpshots do have value, it's a tough thing to defend.
     
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    As much shit as I give Leonard in this forum, I'm only hoping he gets it. He has the physique to be a quality center. He just needs direction. I've read in here that we desperately need a big man coach. I 100% agree. I don't think Leonard refuses to learn how to be a center. I think he just doesn't have the direction.

    Once Leonard develops blocking out, setting good picks, rebounding and a couple low post moves; he will be a force to be reckon with.
     
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    While I don't think this is much ado about nothing, let's remember that the only thing that happened is that he was demoted out of the rotation, because another player is playing better than he was. There's nothing sinister or damaging about that. It's not like we released him or traded him for nothing. It's not like he can't make his way back. Heck, I would love it if Freeland played so dang well that we demoted Lopez. I'd love Robinson to play so well that we demote LMA. Having talented players that play well and help you win is the name of the game.
     
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    Good points Brian. I think it's important for Leonard to know that this only means that he just needs to work on what centers need to work on.

    It was really disappointing for me when I learned he was really working on his three point shot. Although having range is nice, is it really as important than boxing out, rebounding and defending the paint?
     
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    Here's my take:
    Leonard: Helps the team's offense a bit, Destroys the team defense.
    Freeland: Stays out of the way on offense, Doesn't hurt the team defense too much.

    Not a tough decision by the coach based on playing ability and team needs. However, it generally doesn't help a coach's career to leave their lottery picks out of the rotation, where it's the right thing or not. It's a big positive about our organization that this type of thing can happen.
     
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    While I agree with that in general, Leonard isn't Stotts' guy. He was drafted 6 weeks before Stotts was hired.

    I think NBA teams are becoming quicker on the trigger with their first-round picks, unless they're definitely projects and were meant to be so. I mean, just look at the 2012 draft. Aside from Leonard, we've already seen teams give up on #5 (Robinson), #12/#18 (Lamb and T.Jones, but to be fair that was for Harden), #13 (Marshall), #16 (White), #22 (Melo),#30 (Ezeli) for nothing or close to it. (I'm sure I'm missing someone here)
     

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