This is how I see it. I don't want the state to meddle with the decisions of its citizens like most of you here. I'm neither pro or against choice. What I do see is a double standard. One could look at a "criminal" and say this person had a choice to do the crime and will be judged accordingly. A fetus didn't have a choice and it's perfectly legal to destroy life because it's our choice, but we must protect those that had a choice to murder because they can talk? It's funny to me. I do understand this is a slippery slope. I also understand that many people don't believe a fetus is an actual child. I will say I believe that a fetus is a child and destroying one is like killing a baby. My opinion and it's why I would never personally do it.
This would require a definition of when a fetus (baby as you call it) becomes a person. I don't have an answer to that. Certainly when born, perhaps earlier, but when? I'd just rather not have the state involved with making this decision.
Even one is a travesty and a mockery of our justice system. I found the number 258, Further see 140 something, point is more than you think and less than we know about. Here is a top 10 list though.
I look at abortion as a nasty social necessity. I don't like it but I think its necessary for a healthy society. When you birth or force someone to birth an unwanted baby they usually grow up to be negative members of society and add to our poverty, drug and criminal problems. The hypocritical part from the right, as I see it, is when you make people have unwanted babies and then dont want to help them with any extra social programs, you really can't have it both ways and be functional in the long run.
No, saying that someone justifying abortions because the babies will end up in poor homes and tax our society is like the holocast. I wouldn't call anyone that has an abortion, hitler. I would call someone justifying abortion because that child will be a tax on society "hitler".
Women who have miscarriages should be charged with manslaughter, maybe the drank too much coffee or missed their vitamins one day. Let the courts sort it out, innocent baby deaths and all
I agree. As I would for the left to not want to put someone to death for murdering innocent people. The only difference is one side choose to warrant the penalty; while the other side had no choice at all. But you won't see me picketing some abortion clinic. I'm just giving my 2 cents. Also, instead of forcing a poor family to raise the baby, what about adoption? There are more families that would love to adopt. In fact there are long waiting lists for adopting parents. The government won't have to support anything in this regard
What about a tax on themselves? I would assume finances plays a large role in many abortion decisions. Hitlers! Millions of Hitlers!!!
Hmmm the context was on point. If you believe it's okay to abort a baby because that baby will be a detriment to society; then think it's not okay to kill others because you think they are lower than you; which will poison your "gene pool"; then we got some beef
The debate on abortion holds zero similarities to killing because that baby will be a tax on society. It's really quite simple.
I would be all for the death penalty if it really was cheaper and innocent people didn't get executed. If someone rapes and murders a bunch of children or something like that then fuck them right? That's just my vengeance side speaking though, I really don't believe its much of a real deterrent. Another argument for life in prison though is potentially helping with unresolved cases and scientifically studying the criminals to better understand why they do it. Adoption is a fantastic alternative, however its not viable to birth every baby that is aborted and put them up for adoption. What we really need is a way to prevent all births till they are wanted without imposing some sort of invasive procedure on the population. If I was king I would require everyone who wants a baby to pass an IQ test and prove means to support it, sort of like applying for a mortgage.
