Buzz: The Rangers Are Desperate For Help/Could Move Michael Del Zotto

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  1. dumpstralmannow

    dumpstralmannow Active Member

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    He will never be that player if he doesn't get PP time. My biggest problem with MDZ is that he hasn't improved his shot enough. It got a little better but it needs to get a lot better for him to become the point guy that they thought he would become.
     
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    Then he needs to go out and earn more PP time. It would be nice to see him take a lesson from Kreider, and just say #uck it, and go out there and play hard every time he steps out on the ice (that's what it looks like Kreider is doing). For starters, always try and be the first to the puck. He got his start at the Garden at what 20? That's a lot to ask of anybody, much less somebody just out of his teens. If you aren't up to it mentally, you are just asking for trouble. I don't know what's going on in the locker room, much less what he's reading or hearing on the streets, but I'll bet it's not good. To me, he has the look of somebody who is ready for a fresh start anywhere else. And in the right system, and city, he could flourish. But you can't just give him away.
     
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    chuckd3534 Well-Known Member

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    I think the NHL should put a team back in Quebec IMO. I think that is a good hockey market, and they are willing to build a new arena. The NHL would be smart to go back there again.
     
  4. Ranger71

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    And that's why they should deal him for Hemsky(I know Dump :) )and Petry, you get a guy who can score 15-20 and a replacement for DZ who can shoot well and isn't much older and more physical than DZ. The guy can play over 20 min a night. You'd have to throw in prospect like St. Croix to make it work but that's something I would do. I'm not even certain Edmonton would do that with the way DZ's stock has declined some.
     
  5. dumpstralmannow

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    The Rangers would never trade MDZ for Hemsky straight up in a million years. His stock has only declined in the eyes of Rangers fans. Not to other GM's. Petry sucks. Every defenseman the Oilers have sucks. Thus why they have the record they do.
     
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    Petry dosen't suck, he's just been on a putrid team for 3 years, but he's got a good hard point shot and is perfect for a 6th dman. He's an RFA I think too which is good. He's logged more minutes than DZ has.
     
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    The reporter's hometown Ottawa is a point behind the Rangers but the Rangers are the desperate team despite missing two of their best players? Last year's leading scorer Stepan finally scores and the Rangers are desperate? That article is rubbish Chuck, more suited to lining a parrot cage floor than evidence to back up your MDZ hatred. I'll say it again Del Zotto led our defensemen in scoring last year, that's a fact that should dissuade those unfounded claims of regression and why I want the Rangers to resign him. In my opinion I do think he'll only get better, Staal is the guy I'm concerned with. Rarely do the Rangers sign or trade for a "20 goal scorer" who lives up to the billing.
     
  8. dumpstralmannow

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    Petry sucks. Until I actually see one of those reject defenseman make the Oilers a better team, they all suck.
     
  9. Ranger71

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    They definately should've taken Murray over Yakupov, that much is for certain.
     
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    They have no clue. They should have either taken Landeskog over RNH or told RNH he won't see the NHL until he adds about 30 pounds of muscle. The stupid Oilers rush all their prospects.
     
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    Oh Panzer, I feel bad for you buddy. If you think I need some article to back up MY OPINION that we should deal DZ for a scoring winger, you have some serious issues. It is a report I saw. Maybe he has sources...maybe he is full of sh*t...who knows. But I do not need some article to back up MY OPINION that we should deal DZ for a scorer. It is the same opinion I have had for nearly 3 years, so some random article won't change that in anyway.
     
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    chuckd3534 Well-Known Member

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    And we are on the same page. I would deal him for that scorer, and no way would I re-sign him this summer (I will risk that he gets much better and burns us down the road). You would not deal him, and would re-sign him for 3 or 4 years at 3 or 4 mill per. That is cool. We agree to disagree on that.
     
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    And BTW dump, who is saying MDZ has no value? I think he does have decent value, and would only deal him if we can get a legit 20 or so goal scoring winger. That is it. I would never just give him away to get rid of him...no way at all.
     
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    what MdZ needs more than anything is for somebody to pop him in the puss. The man is afraid to hit or give a hit. until he takes this emotional step in his development, he will never be Stanley cup material. The Stanley Cup Finals is a war of attrition, it takes a total physical commitment by all members of the team. MDZ is showing no signs of having that in his DNA. You don't go to war with the current MDZ. ONce he relisizes he can get into a scrum or jump in for a teammate, and survive, he will have turned a corner.
     
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    If they do deal him though they need to get a dman back in the deal or in another at the same time. I don't think Allen is quite ready and Falk stinks.
     
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    Every year is the same with you Chuck. You find one guy to bitch about and you don't shut up on him all year. If they trade MDZ, you will immediately find another guy to bitch about the rest of the year. It's what gets you thru the season.
     
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    That is the best comment I have seen in my life...you are so dumb it hurts man. YOUR NAME IS DUMPPYATT. IT WAS DUMPAVERY. IT WAS DUMPTORTS. IT WAS DUMPBOYLE. ON AND ON.

    My lord you are an idiot sometimes dump...LOL.
     
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    Bottom line...the rangers have a surplus of young dmen. Naturally you try and use that surplus to fill holes.

    Mdz has had one terrific month. He has regressed from the (december or nov). He did have a horrible post seaskn.

    His contract is up and will seek a raise. Where is he going? Is he going to over take mac? Staal? Girarid (perhaps) moore (overall game I think moore is better) so he is 3rd best dman. I wouldnt sign him to 4k. His shot is horrible. His true asset is puck handling. His defense is below average. Yes on a bad team he can easily be a top 4 guy. I don't want the rangers to be that bad team. Send him packing for help up front.

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  19. dumpstralmannow

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    People continue to think MDZ is a problem and he's not. The problem is what Rick Nash will be going forward. That is the problem.
     
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    I agree with Dump that we should be more concerned with Nash than MDZ. I am done obsessing over MDZ. He is what he is. Young d-men with a potential who still makes plenty of mistakes and not as good as we thought he would become. This happens to a lot of teams in this league.
     

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