Stanley Milgram's Obedience Experiments Debunked?

Nikolokolus · Nov 4, 2013

http://dish.andrewsullivan.com/2013/11/04/rethinking-milgram/

Interesting examination of the famous Yale experiments where students were commanded to deliver what they believed were (near lethal) doses of electrical shock.

Some pretty damning evidence that the results were fudged.

This new evidence suggests that Milgram’s female subjects may have been more likely to disobey than his male subjects. Perry also finds that in later variations, Milgram allowed Williams to ad-lib new commands. For example, at one point Williams learned from early trials that some participants had felt obligated to follow his directions in the interest of aiding Yale in its pursuit of knowledge. He then intimated to later subjects that, if they refused to follow his orders, the entire study would be invalidated. Milgram never mentioned these facts in any of his published writing.

Aside from the specific situational implications of these facts, Perry’s evidence raises larger questions regarding a study that is still firmly entrenched in American scientific and popular culture: if Milgram lied once about his compromised neutrality, to what extent can we trust anything he said? And how could a blatant breach in objectivity in one of the most analyzed experiments in history go undetected for so long?
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MARIS61 · Nov 4, 2013

Nobody other than lab rats (scientists who lack daily interaction with human beings) ever took that study seriously. People who know people know people are better than that.

BLAZER PROPHET · Nov 4, 2013

Shocking.

Yoda_of_the_MODA · Nov 4, 2013

Science can't possibly be faked or have data manipulated in order to result in a predetermined outcome. Come on, who is going to believe that this could happen?

Plus, shouldn't Andrew Sullivan still be focused on his wacky Trg Palin birth theories?

Talk about an absolute nutjob.

http://www.salon.com/2011/04/22/sarah_palin_trig_conspiracy_theory/

Long pursued by the blogger Andrew Sullivan and a significant segment of the Palin-hating left, Trig Trutherism holds that Trig’s real mother is either Bristol Palin or some third party, and that Sarah Palin herself faked the pregnancy to avoid embarrassment for her daughter or for political gain or some combination of reasons.

In light of the recent attention this subject has received and the considerable passion it has stirred, Salon embarked last week on an investigation of the circumstances surrounding Trig’s birth. The exhaustive review of available evidence that we conducted, along with new interviews with multiple eyewitnesses who interacted with a pregnant Sarah Palin up-close in early 2008 — most of whom had never spoken publicly about the matter before — has produced one clear conclusion: Sarah Palin is, indeed, Trig’s mother and there is no reason to suspect any kind of a coverup.

We’ve learned, for instance, that an Associated Press reporter in Alaska who was covering Palin during her pregnancy in early 2008 (before she became a national figure) thoroughly investigated rumors that the pregnancy was a hoax. The reporter directly questioned Palin about the matter in a private meeting in her Juneau office before she gave birth. Gov. Palin responded by voluntarily lifting her outer layer of clothing, offering a clear look at her round belly. The reporter quickly concluded that there was no truth to the rumors and never wrote about them.

So why dive into this old conspiracy theory now?
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jlprk · Nov 4, 2013

Sure, foreign torturers lie. But here in the good old U. S. of A.?

I'm sorry, we're the good guys. Our torturers don't lie.

Nikolokolus · Nov 4, 2013

Yoda_of_the_MODA said: ↑

Science can't possibly be faked or have data manipulated in order to result in a predetermined outcome. Come on, who is going to believe that this could happen?

Plus, shouldn't Andrew Sullivan still be focused on his wacky Trg Palin birth theories?

Talk about an absolute nutjob.

http://www.salon.com/2011/04/22/sarah_palin_trig_conspiracy_theory/
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I really have no idea about any of that. I only linked to his site because he's the one that put up an excerpt about Milgram from a book exposing the guy's fraud.

jlprk · Nov 5, 2013

Yoda, you should be informed that the best way to cure Athlete's Foot is to have someone pee on your foot.

http://upwave.com/wellness/athletes-foot-remedy-urine?cid=uwdaotbnvid01

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