Obama: "If the web site doesn't work, nothing else matters"

Shooter · Nov 4, 2013

No matter which aspects of the sprawling law had been that day’s focus, the official said, Obama invariably ended the meeting the same way: “All of that is well and good, but if the Web site doesn’t work, nothing else matters.”
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http://www.ijreview.com/2013/11/918...te-web-site-doesnt-work-nothing-else-matters/

You can't make this stuff up. Obama was apparently obsessed with making sure the website worked--and knew just how important it was--and yet he still couldn't make it happen. Books are going to be written about this fiasco . . .

jlprk · Nov 5, 2013

Actually, the website doesn't matter. Because old people are internet-challenged, almost all use the personal method to sign up.

Articles that tell you that only a few hundred have signed up nationally, don't tell you that hundreds of thousands have signed up via alternative ways, like walking in.

blazerboy30 · Nov 5, 2013

jlprk said: ↑

Actually, the website doesn't matter. Because old people are internet-challenged, almost all use the personal method to sign up.

Articles that tell you that only a few hundred have signed up nationally, don't tell you that hundreds of thousands have signed up via alternative ways, like walking in.
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Don't argue with your savior Obama. He said only the website matters, so do your typical routine of agreeing with him and suckling at his teet.

TradeNurkicNow · Nov 5, 2013

Shooter said: ↑

http://www.ijreview.com/2013/11/918...te-web-site-doesnt-work-nothing-else-matters/

You can't make this stuff up. Obama was apparently obsessed with making sure the website worked--and knew just how important it was--and yet he still couldn't make it happen. Books are going to be written about this fiasco . . .
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Yeah, by Ann Coulter and Bill O'Reilly.

TradeNurkicNow · Nov 5, 2013

blazerboy30 said: ↑

Don't argue with your savior Obama. He said only the website matters, so do your typical routine of agreeing with him and suckling at his teet.
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It's like you don't even read his posts.

blazerboy30 · Nov 5, 2013

hoojacks said: ↑

It's like you don't even read his posts.
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I try not to.

Yoda_of_the_MODA · Nov 5, 2013

This guy is a pathological liar, and seems to be mentally unstable.

Obama denies ‘you can keep it’ videotaped promises

President Barack Obama told his enthusiastic supporters Monday night that he never promised what video recordings show him promising at least 29 times.

The videos show Obama promising 300 million Americans that “if you like your health-care plan, you will be able to keep your health-care plan, period.”

But that’s not what he really said, Obama announced Monday in a speech to about 200 Organizing for Action supporters, gathered at the St. Regis hotel in D.C.

“What we said was you could keep it if it hasn’t changed since the law was passed,” he told Obamacare’s political beneficiaries and contractors.

That claim is not supported by his videotaped statements, which don’t include any mention of his new “if it hasn’t changed” exception.

But the newly-revealed exception is justified by a higher-priority promise in Obamacare, Obama declared.

“If we had allowed these old plans [to continue]… then we would have broken an even more important promise — making sure that Americans gain access to health care that doesn’t leave them one illness away from financial ruin,” he announced.

“So the bottom line is, is that we are making the insurance market better for everybody,” he declared, prompting loud applause by supporters eager to ignore his three years of fraudulent statements.

Obama’s higher promise is now causing the cancelation of insurance policies chosen by at least 3.5 million Americans.

The cancellations are spreading from the individual market to the small-group market. For example, Kentucky’s Department of Insurance has reported that 150,000 people in small-group plans — typically created for employees of small companies — are losing their insurance.

Obama urged his supporters to counter the political effect of the many cancellations by highlighting good-news stories, and by reassuring people who have lost their insurance that they can buy new Obamacare-compliant policies.

“I realize that can be scary for people if they just get some [cancellation] notice like that… we’ve got to make sure that we’re getting them the right information,” he said.

Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2013/11/05/obama-denies-you-can-keep-it-videotaped-promises/#ixzz2joZtgl2g
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Yoda_of_the_MODA · Nov 5, 2013

Liar

blazerboy30 · Nov 5, 2013

In 2008, Obama Promised He Would Not Raise Any Taxes On Families Earning Less Than $250,000 A Year. OBAMA: “I can make a firm pledge. Under my plan, no family making less than $250,000 a year will see any form of tax increase.” (Senator Barack Obama, Remarks In Dover, NH, 8/12/08)

OBAMA: “Not Your Income Tax, Not Your Payroll Tax, Not Your Capital Gains Taxes, Not Any Of Your Taxes.” (Senator Barack Obama, Remarks In Dover, NH, 8/12/08)

In 2009, President Obama The Pledge To Not Increase Taxes On Middle Class Families “Not One Single Dime.” OBAMA: “If your family earns less than $250,000 a year, a quarter million dollars a year, you will not see your taxes increased a single dime. I repeat: not one single dime.” (President Barack Obama, Address Before A Joint Session Of Congress, Washington, DC, 2/24/09)

Then-Press Secretary Robert Gibbs, When Asked If The Pledge Only Applied To Income Taxes, Said That “The Statement Didn’t Come With Caveats.” REPORTER: “The President’s opposition to tax increases for the middle income. Does that apply to the health care bill, and specifically to this idea about taxing health insurance premiums?” ROBERT GIBBS: “Taxing?” REPORTER: “Health insurance premiums.” GIBBS: “Well, I mean it’s — the statement didn’t come with caveats.” (Press Briefing By Press Secretary Robert Gibbs, Washington, D.C., 4/15/09)
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His pledges are completely meaningless and blatant lies.

Yoda_of_the_MODA · Nov 5, 2013

blazerboy30 said: ↑

His pledges are completely meaningless and blatant lies.
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The worst part to me is that he then tries to say that he didn't way what is on tape. It's like he's pissing on your leg, and you see him pissing on your leg, but he's telling you it's raining. You can see him pissing on you, but he, to your face, is telling you no, it's rain.

"And if you like your insurance plan, you will keep it. No one will be able to take that away from you. It hasn't happened yet. It won't happen in the future." – Obama, remarks in Portland, Ore., April 1, 2010, after the bill was signed into law.
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Just a weird guy, and clearly a pathological liar.

Shooter · Nov 5, 2013

jlprk said: ↑

Actually, the website doesn't matter.
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Ah, so Obama was lying about that, too?

Yoda_of_the_MODA · Nov 5, 2013

The best threads on the OT boards are the ones where the majority of posters ignore the content.

Here is liberal columnist Ron Fournier's take on the obvious lies of Obama regarding the health care sales' job.

http://www.nationaljournal.com/whit...ies-why-credibility-matters-to-obama-20131105

It might not seem possible that President Obama could do more harm to his credibility and the public's faith in government than misleading Americans about health insurance reform. But he can. The president is now misleading the public about his deception.

No, no, no, no, no--that's not what the Obama administration said. What it said was:

"That means that no matter how we reform health care, we will keep this promise to the American people: If you like your doctor, you will be able to keep your doctor, period. If you like your health care plan, you'll be able to keep your health care plan, period. No one will take it away, no matter what." – President Obama, speech to the American Medical Association, June 15, 2009, during the debate over health insurance reform.
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"And if you like your insurance plan, you will keep it. No one will be able to take that away from you. It hasn't happened yet. It won't happen in the future." – Obama, remarks in Portland, Ore., April 1, 2010, after the bill was signed into law.
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These quotes are courtesy of Washington Post fact-checker Glenn Kessler, who gave Obama four Pinocchios for the you-can-keep-it whopper, repeated countless times by Obama. "The president's statements were sweeping and unequivocal—and made both before and after the bill became law," Kessler wrote. "The White House now cites technicalities to avoid admitting that he went too far in his repeated pledge, which, after all, is one of the most famous statements of his presidency."

What Obama told supporters Monday is what he should have told the public all along. "So we wrote into the Affordable Care Act, you're grandfathered in on that plan. But if the insurance company changes it, then what we're saying is they've got to change it to a higher standard. They've got to make it better, they've got to improve the quality of the plan they are selling," Obama said at an Organizing for Action event. "That's part of the promise that we made too. That's why we went out of our way to make sure that the law allowed for grandfathering."

"If we had allowed these old plans to be downgraded, or sold to new enrollees once the law had already passed, then we would have broken an even more important promise--making sure Americans gain access to health care that doesn't leave them one illness away from financial ruin," Obama said Monday. "The bottom line is that we are making the insurance market better for everybody and that's the right thing to do."

Watch the video of Obama reinventing history with the "what-we-said-was" construction. Notice how he is looking at notes. Remarkably, this was not an off-the-cuff remark; it was written, reviewed, and approved by senior White House officials, then recited by the president. An orchestrated deceit.

Why didn't Obama add their caveats during his reelection campaign? His aides debated it. Some argued that the president had to shoot straight with the public. Others feared that he public wouldn't understand the nuance and GOP rival Mitt Romney would use it to his advantage.

The cynics won. The truth was buried. And the man who promised to run the most transparent administration in history participated in a lie.

On history's scale of deception, this one leaves a light footprint. Worse lies have been told by worse presidents, leading to more severe consequences, and you could argue that withholding a caveat is more a sin of omission. But this president is toying with a fragile commodity: his credibility. Once Americans stop believing in Obama, they will stop listening to him. They won't trust government to manage health care. And they will wonder what happened to the reform-minded leader who promised never to lie to them.
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TradeNurkicNow · Nov 5, 2013

Man good thing Obama never lied before, or all this freaking the fuck out would look pretty disingenuous.

Yoda_of_the_MODA · Nov 5, 2013

hoojacks said: ↑

Man good thing Obama never lied before, or all this freaking the fuck out would look pretty disingenuous.
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This lie impacts tens of millions of people. It was told in order to get the votes of those buying their own insurance.

Herp a derp!

DaLincolnJones · Nov 5, 2013

Yoda_of_the_MODA said: ↑

This lie impacts tens of millions of people. It was told in order to get the votes of those buying their own insurance.

Herp a derp!
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what is so amazing is how many believed that this would become "free" health care.

TradeNurkicNow · Nov 5, 2013

Yoda_of_the_MODA said: ↑

This lie impacts tens of millions of people. It was told in order to get the votes of those buying their own insurance.

Herp a derp!
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No, I was wrong, for some reason I had you confused with previous poster who got himself banned that freaked the fuck out about everything. Carry on with your level headed analysis.

MARIS61 · Nov 5, 2013

hoojacks said: ↑

No, I was wrong, for some reason I had you confused with previous poster who got himself banned that freaked the fuck out about everything. Carry on with your level headed analysis.
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I made the same mistake at first but clearly not the same poster. Different screen name.

Yoda_of_the_MODA · Nov 5, 2013

hoojacks said: ↑

Carry on with your level headed analysis.
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I will. I notice you can't refute this obvious lie as well.

Haakzilla · Nov 6, 2013

blazerboy30 said: ↑

His pledges are completely meaningless and blatant lies.
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[video=youtube;qpa-5JdCnmo]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qpa-5JdCnmo[/video]

blazerboy30 · Nov 6, 2013

hoojacks said: ↑

Man good thing Obama never lied before, or all this freaking the fuck out would look pretty disingenuous.
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What is your point?

a) Implying it's fine for Obama to lie?
b) Implying that posters here haven't called out his lying previously?
c) You don't have a point, as usual

The answer is (c), even though you aren't aware of it.

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