MDZ only had 13.5 minutes ice time tonight but that's not relevant to the objectively challenged. Got it, you hate the guy but enough already. Glen's not making a panic move to give MDZ away for a possible 15 goal scorer, he's worth a lot more than that. A move like that doesn't even have an impact the loss of a premier player like Nash anyway. Forget about a good Ranger win on the road in what could have been a classic let-down game putting them back at .500. Sorry to see Pyatt get hurt but it will be interesting to see who gets his spot and minutes.
You are one of the stupiest people in history dump, that is all I will say. You proved how much of a moron you were earlier this week. And no matter how many times I tell you I wanted DZ gone long before the Devs series, and can show you about 700 posts on ESPN boards to prove it. And no matter how many times I tell you the whole team ran out of gas against the Devs, and a lot of players stunk not just DZ, you just don't listen. My god you are a dumb block of wood dump...LOL.
Why would it be a panic move to deal MDZ for a solid winger scorer when you factor in: 1. It would be assinine to re-sign him to a 3 or 4 year deal worth 3 or 4 mill per. 2. It would be assinine to re-sign him to that kind of deal when you factor in we have a good group of young dmen ready to step up. 3. It would be assinine to re-sign him to that kind of deal when you understand that he simply has not gotten better the past few seasons, and is still up and down like a yo-yo. So I don't get it. I understand why dump wants to go behind the stands and blow MDZ, him and I have debated MDZ for about 3 years now and since he was wrong, and dump simply is incapable of admitting he is wrong, the child in dump comes out so he resorts to calling people names instead of saying he is wrong. But looking at the makeup of the team I cannot understand why anyone else would want to re-sign MDZ to that kind of deal if we can get a good solid scoring winger for him. That puzzles me. No one is saying give him away, but if we can get a solid scorer for him, we'd be dumb not to deal him IMO.
I'd like to see Hrivik or Lindberg get a shot in Pyatts absence. Of course they cooooouuuullllddd make a deal involving a certain blueliner. What exactly is DZ good for other than the occasional stretch pass which connects or a nice end to end rush every full moon? He's timid, dosen't shoot very well and is a turnover waiting to happen. They need a little more size up front even with the increased scoring lately, they're still a little small overall.
I am not even getting on MDZ anymore. That is why I don't mention him until idiot dump has to start his typical shit. The bottom line to me is if we can get a good solid scorer, given the makeup of the team, it makes perfect sense to make a deal. That is my point. It isn't even just about MDZ's play. When you factor everything in it just makes so much sense to make a deal if we can get a proven scorer for him.
Just because the team has broken out a little offensively dosen't mean you can ignore the extra production Nash would've given, plus the size he provides up front. Even with Nash they still could've used another forward.
Saying DZ "doesn't shoot very well" has got to be the biggest understatement so far this season. I can't ever remember him simply beating a goaltender with a shot, I don't think he has a slapshot in his arsenal, and he misses the net more than any player I've ever watched on a regular basis. I didn't think he was awful tonight, but I surely noticed when Marian "I Never Win Battles For The Puck In Corners Because A Stiff Breeze Knocks Me Down" Gaborik outmuscled him for the puck behind the net. DZ's ceiling isn't much higher than where he's at right now. His hockey IQ seems low and he has no shot. If other teams are knocking down the door to get him, take the best offer and call it a day.
And yet MDZ has led Rangers defensemen in scoring the last two years but I guess there's no point throwing facts at Rangers followers who evaluate players emotionally. Career shooting %: MDZ 7%; McD 6.3%, Staal 5.3%, Girardi 4.2% so guess that shooting accuracy nonsense is emotionally based too. MDZ skates & dangles circles around the other 3, another reason Glen wouldn't include him in Nash trade talks. I see MDZ staying and Girardi as odd man out next year because he'll be able to get more money from another team. Speaking of softness I recall during a Flyer game a few years ago Girardi standing by and watching Carcillo pummel Gaborik, point is Moore seems to be the only dman on the Rangers willing to drop the gloves which is why we've needed need a McIlrath type enforcer for years.
How dare you present facts panzer to people like Chuck. That might prove him to be an "idiot". To Sorr, I guess you forgot about plays in the Washington playoff series a couple of years ago where he beat Holtby twice with a shot with no screen. Honestly, you can't 'make up the stupidity with MDZ and our fans at this point. Part of the reason the Rangers are despised around hockey is because a lot of their fans act like they have a wealth of knowledge when in reality, they know jack. I listened for years about how Renney was a great coach. Now Torts when he got here was a great coach for our team. There was no accountability under Renney. However, Torts problem was he wouldn't change a few things. He never kept lines together and played a non attacking system. That ultimately doomed him. However, it says something about MDZ that Vancouver is interested in him. Amazing how every team has interest in MDZ but according to a ton of our fans, he sucks.
You MDZ guys are comical. The guy is a bad dman in his own zone. He is soft on the boards. He cannot shoot for an offensive dman. He is a yo yo with his play up and down. Just stop the BS already. If you guys would re-sign him for that type of deal, good for you. I happen to think that is insane. And AGAIN I feel that way because of his up and down play AND the fact that we have some good young dmen ready to come up soon. And lastly, for the 10000000000000000 time, I would NOT give him away. I only deal DZ for a good solid scoring winger that we badly need. I know that is difficult for some to comprehend. I know that somehow = me saying I would deal MDZ at all costs, but that is NOT what I am saying. 1. I would NOT re-sign him for that type of deal this summer. 2. We have some good young dmen ready to come up and step in, so we can afford to deal a dman for some scoring. 3. I would only deal MDZ for good value. A good solid scoring winger. Understand that guys, and let's not spin the BS.
And stupid NON-FACTUAL comments from dump like "amazing teams want MDZ when according to our fans he sucks", shows YET AGAIN that dump is a moron. I am not saying he sucks. I am saying he is soft in the corners, and inconsistent. That is MDZ. No doubt he has value. And no doubt he can be a dman that can move the puck and score some points from the BL. Which is yet again why I only deal him for good value. A good scoring winger, which we need. And the ONLY reason dump keeps bringing this up. And dump keeps dragging me into this ridiculous waste of time discussion for the 7000000000000000000 time over the past 3 seasons, is he was wrong so he does what dump does and tries to belittle people and call them morons thinking they will eventually give up so in his small mind he can say I won that one. That is why he continually distorts the facts on MDZ between him and I. That is why he continually starts these ridiculous discussions between us on MDZ, just like he did here. I wasn't even in this thread at all. And then AS USUAL dump has to make some ridiculous comment towards me about MDZ, and away we go again. It is what dump does, because saying I WAS WRONG is not an option for him...LOL. Now I am done talking about MDZ period end of story. People know how I have felt about him for 3 years now. People know where I stand now. And no made up BS spewed by dump will change that.
I notice you didn't point out Staal's idiotic penalty with 4 minutes left. Seems you turn the other way with every player on the team except MDZ. I'm not against trading him if you think Nash will be a long term problem. However, you blame the failures of the team on one guy consistently which is absurd.
From Brooks. "Michael Del Zotto, whose work in his own end has been an adventure, played just 2:59 in the third and 13:28 for the match." Basically, Brooks is a moron with almost no hockey knowledge. His work in his own end has been better overall than Girardi and Staal as a whole this season Larry. However, you're an idiot so you can't see that. He also played 13:28 stupid because the game was nasty and he's probably in trade discussion you tool. Don't think that isn't going to play into his minutes getting limited.
I think you will get your wish Chuck with MDZ getting dealt. Mostly because the Oilers are stupid and will probably allow Sather to rip them off as always.
I hope we rip off Edmonton as well. And I do think we make a deal with them. That team is a mess on D, and they need to start winning now or they will all be gone. MDZ in a package for some O. Makes perfect sense with the Oilers. As for Staal, yeah he has not played well at times this season. Okay, I have no issue saying that. I just know his body of work is really good and he will get where he needs to be. And I did not start this MDZ stuff in this thread. I wasn't even in this thread until you called me out in it. So get you stuff straight please dump. And I most certainly do not blame all the issues on MDZ DUMP 50 guys...LOL.
Whatever Brooks says, just take the opposite and you will be correct 95% of the time. Brooks should have retired 5 years ago. He hated Torts so AV will do no wrong as far as Brooks is concerned. He will kiss this guys butt all season.
Agree on Brooks, but it does make a lot of sense for us to deal with the Oilers. And they have to add some D. It is not good for them right now, and they need to start winning games. Their D is awful. And having the # 1 pick every season gets old when you stink every season anyway.
