Harden receives flop warning from NBA for play against Portland

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  1. BBert

    BBert Weasels Ripped My Flesh

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    Flopping is pretty rare in HS basketball. I ref 80-100 games every year. 50+ of them are HS games (30 or so Varsity). We refs simply don't allow it to happen. When it happens it is addressed the way I said in my previous post.
     
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    As long as it works on the ref, teams will not discourage flopping.
     
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    NBA refs are not corrupt. They are Lazy. They are ball watching, lazy people who get paid an ASTRONOMICAL amount of money (save a few that I've met like Bennie Adams and Violet Palmer). They don't get in position to correctly analyze the play and are consistently watching the ball whether it's in their primary area of coverage or not.
     
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    The refs should call the flop as technical foul. That punishes the team and if acumulative a second Tec would remove the player.
     
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    Boob-No-More Why you no hire big man coach?

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    When I played in high school, faking a charge, was called as a technical foul for unsportsmanlike conduct. Back then (yes, I'm old), the term flopping hadn't even been invented yet.

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    This was actually called against my friend once in middle school. It was hilarious though. My friend set up for the charge just over the half court line. The ball handler clearly saw him and moved out of the way easily, making no contact. My friend went flying backwards anyways.
     
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    Boob-No-More Why you no hire big man coach?

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    You seem to assume the NBA actually wants to fix this. I don't think they actually care. In fact, I think they LIKE anything that lets guys like LeBron, Durant, Harden, etc, get to the line more to inflate their scoring averages.

    I think the whole anti-flopping rule and fines are just window dressing to appease the casual fan. The fans complain about flopping. So, the NBA responds by saying: "Yes, we agree. Flopping is cheating and disrespectful. We'll fine those fuckers to teach them that flopping is bad."

    In the end, nothing changes. The NBA has been superstar driven since the 1980s and the superstars will still get the superstar calls, even if it takes an academy award worthy acting performance.

    BNM
     
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    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    Oh I completely agree. They don't give a shit. I'm just saying that if you want to actually fix the problem, it has to hurt more than just a warning and then a fine.
     
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    Genius. If refs are fined (and I'm a ref) it would be a way better system than fining the players. Refs would be more diligent to get an "open look" (correct positioning where you can see in between the players).
     
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    At all levels faking a foul is a technical. I am all for calling Techs on the most egregious of flops. And no calling the weaker ones.
     
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    It wasn't a charge, but I was reffing a tournament on the coast and a player was coming up to guard a player at half court... so the offensive team had a player in front of the ball carrier, and the ball carrier shoved their own player into the defender and was trying to get the defender to pick up a cheap foul.

    The ball went to the other team. I still laugh at that one.
     
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    Once I was reffing a spelling bee. I saw that one child faked pronunciation on the actual dog lease. I blew my guitar and he was disqualified.
     
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    Late checking in to the thread, but I don't blame Harden as much as I blame the refs. Players will do anything within the rules (and sometimes, without) to gain an advantage. No one watching the game (or reading about you guys watching the game) can conclude anything other than that Harden gained an advantage with his flopping. (Just as he would if he could double-dribble, or pass to himself, or trip a player without being called). The referees are paid to ensure the rules of the game are followed and a team or player doesn't gain illegal advantage because they're flaunting those rules.

    Yeah, give Harden a warning. Give the officials a suspension pending further training on the rules and supervised game action.
     
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    I can't blame the refs for that one particular call. It was too close. So after the game (Or even at half time) they need to review those calls and penalize the players who blatantly pretend to get hurt.

    If they do it at half time, Kick them out of the game if it was really warranted. (Like in this case where he was little bitch holding his eye) I don't blame the player for trying it because right now there is no reason not to do it. So give them a reason not to do it.

    The refs can't always see everything, so they react to the acting. Only way to stop the acting is to hurt the team. Suspend the player.
     
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    Wow. However, most of the posts I read (just a handful) were hating on Harden. Sounds like he's their Brandon Roy - concerned about getting his, putting blame on others, and not being held accountable.
    Let's see if we can get Lin as our back-up PG! Think they'd have any interest in Mo+?
     

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