<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Yeah, if they were real the dude would be on fire.</div>Lqtm, you took Justice serious?Those are actual real flames, there's a reason they came in afterwards with water and extinguishers. And how may I know this, because I've seen this event. Dudleyz powerbombing Balls onto a flaming table is a image attached to ECW.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Acw6QLy73RgHere's a vid of Balls/Axl, it's a better view than a small gif.
I love to watch wrestling but I don't like Vince and what he's done to the WWE. It's turned into horsecrap.
Why the hell do all the wrestlers have such gay names? I mean, KFed? What kind of piece of sh*t makes their name KFed?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1lXfs6JuVq8Not for the weak of heart, but realistic believe it or not. <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>During the match, Eudy consequently suffered a leg fracture when it snapped following his leap from the middle turnbuckle in an attempted Big Boot.The fracture, caught on video, was deemed too graphic by many TV stations.[3]Eudy broke his left leg in half, snapping both the tibia and fibula in his leg with at least one of the bones breaking through the skin.</div>But anyway, for those people who just say "Wrestling is fake, storylines are fake, the pain and physical contact they make is fake" is just ignorant. These wrestlers are trained to take beatings like that and imagine guys like Ric Flair who's like over 60 who still has the stamina to withstand a match and physical contact. You can say how much the storylines and outcome of the matches is fake, and I won't deny it because we all know it is fake. But it's another thing to ignorantly say how the beating they take is fake.Other than boxing, and real life wrestling like UFC, entertainment wrestling has to be the most body demanded sport out there. Then you add gimmick matches like Inferno match, hell in the cell, elimination chamber. It's not fake.Yeah, that's fake. , so is the dislocated jaw, dislocated shoulder, brusied kidney, 2 broken ribs, 1 and half missing teeth, a concussion and 14 stitches under his lip.It took Mick Foley 2 months to recover and it definitely shorten his active wrestling career.But I'm sure that's all fake to you guys.
That Sid vid is probably one of the nastiest injuries I've seen. Just look at his leg. Imagine if his boot was off.
Well, to be serious, I think there is a lot of validity to people calling it fake. Yeah, people get hit with stuff and get injuries. Wow, big deal. I'm pretty sure that there are more injuries in football even per capita. Obviously it isn't ENTIRELY fake, but that doesn't make it entirely real. The stuff they do today, in the WWE at least, is pretty weak compared to like 10 years ago. Everything is highly prepared, rehearsed, etc. If it wasn't, they would get injured a lot more, obviously. It's all getting pussified. They are working so hard to prolong careers that the shows have become much more fake. For every bruise and broken bone, there are about 1000 fake punches, flops, whips, and pins.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Justice @ Jan 17 2007, 01:01 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Well, to be serious, I think there is a lot of validity to people calling it fake. Yeah, people get hit with stuff and get injuries. Wow, big deal. I'm pretty sure that there are more injuries in football even per capita.</div>Hmm, ARE you sure about that? You're not just making any random statement because of what you think. Just because there MAY be more injuries in football, that doesn't rule anything out of pro wrestling.<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Obviously it isn't ENTIRELY fake, but that doesn't make it entirely real. The stuff they do today, in the WWE at least, is pretty weak compared to like 10 years ago.</div>Weak? Can you elaborate on it? They just had an inferno match a few weeks back...<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Everything is highly prepared, rehearsed, etc. If it wasn't, they would get injured a lot more, obviously. It's all getting pussified. They are working so hard to prolong careers that the shows have become much more fake. For every bruise and broken bone, there are about 1000 fake punches, flops, whips, and pins.</div>If I don't recall, Triple H is kinda out 6 months because of a quad muscle tear. Kind of hard trying injure somebody's quad with literally fake punches, flops, whips and pins, right?
I remember in 5th grade, all my friends were into it, I never was tho. I've always sed it was fake and all that.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Ming637 @ Jan 17 2007, 12:36 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Hmm, ARE you sure about that? You're not just making any random statement because of what you think. Just because there MAY be more injuries in football, that doesn't rule anything out of pro wrestling.Weak? Can you elaborate on it? They just had an inferno match a few weeks back...If I don't recall, Triple H is kinda out 6 months because of a quad muscle tear. Kind of hard trying injure somebody's quad with literally fake punches, flops, whips and pins, right?</div>No, I'm not sure about that. It's an opinion, but I'm rather confident about it. Wrestlers wrestle pretty much every week of the year plus PPV's unless they get time off or whatever. Football players, on the other hand, play 20 weeks out of the year MAX. It certainly isn't random, but it is what I think. If everything were real, which you know it isn't, then wrestlers would get a ton more injuries.Yeah, okay, they had an inferno match. Why wasn't a TLC match? I'll tell you why, because it is much, much easier to control flames than it is to control people flying off ladders and through tables, etc. There is a much higher risk of injury in those, which is why they rarely do them. And when they do, it's not like it used to be.I know you're trying to be sarcastic, but no, not really. I would say that quite a few of the injuries are just botched moves. Stone Cold ring a bell? I didn't say it wasn't dangerous at times, but they make a big effort to make it as safe as they can. Back in the day, they did stuff like that Mankind fall off the cage. Now they do not. I really can't see how it's possible for anyone to think otherwise.
Hate it, tis scripted and is just money grabbing a no skilled wrestler could become a champion, bullsh** in a word
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (/ . CozyWolves @ Jan 17 2007, 11:26 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Hate it, tis scripted and is just money grabbing a no skilled wrestler could become a champion, bullsh** in a word</div>Pro Wrestling is possibly the most challenging thing to do for any athelete because it requires much more than physical ability. The mental aspect of wrestling is huge, and requires literally years to understand for anyone to have success. Someone like AJ Styles could survive in another sport much easier than an NBA player could in the ring. As for wrestling being "fake"; it's not. Of course moves, punches, etc are designed to be as safe as possible most of the time, but it's still very physical and destroys the human body. If moves weren't "worked", and that is the proper term, careers would be awfully short. Wrestling is the most physically demanding thing I've ever heard of for several reasons. The biggest reason is that it's effect on the body is unparalelled. The big time workers perform year round and at most get a week off unless they're injured or have a special contract. Back in the 80's and 90's it was common for talent to be on the road 300 days out of the year. This causes ther body to break down because it has little or no time to heal. Football players get a week off between games, half the winter, and almost all of the spring to recouperate. Pro wrestlers perform with serious injuries all the time. Kurt Angle wrestled against Brock Lesnar at Wrestlemania 19 while in need of a neck fusion surgery. Thet'd never happen in any sport. He risked permanent paralysis in that match. Perry Saturn, Edge, and others have performed with torn ACL or MCL tendons in their knee. Mick Foley suffered countless injuries in matches but always managed to finish them. He wrestled with a torn adbominal muscle, the exact same injury the ended Bill Goldberg's football career. He also worked through countless concussions, broken bones, and even having his ear ripped off his skull.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (/ . CozyWolves @ Jan 17 2007, 11:26 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Hate it, tis scripted and is just money grabbing a no skilled wrestler could become a champion, bullsh** in a word</div>No other sports athlete would dare compete in an inferno match or fall off 16 feet off the hell in the cell on to the table.
I guess this turned into a fake or not discussion. My stance is the same as Justice. I think there's a realness to the bumps wrestlers take and the toll over the years. But there is the aspect of it being fake at times. And it's true, I'm not going to defend that it's 100% real. Because that's just being naive. As for inferno matches being thrown around as it not being faked. I think that's one of the fake portions of the wrestling world. Why? Not because of the flames obviously but the fact there not going to actually put someone in harm's way of flames. Notice how the finishes towards the matches end with a wrestler being set on a fire in a safe spot. It's similar to saying wrestling isn't fake because wrestlers blade themselves. Too gimmicky.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Rok @ Jan 17 2007, 02:21 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>As for inferno matches being thrown around as it not being faked. I think that's one of the fake portions of the wrestling world. Why? Not because of the flames obviously but the fact there not going to actually put someone in harm's way of flames. Notice how the finishes towards the matches end with a wrestler being set on a fire in a safe spot. It's similar to saying wrestling isn't fake because wrestlers blade themselves. Too gimmicky.</div>I think everybody here can agree that the finishes are fake and scripted out, but the impact and affect is a lot worse during the match.<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Undertaker once said in an interview that it was impossible to breathe properly in the ring when the flames were on as they burned most of the oxygen up. WWE.com calls the Inferno match "possibly the sickest of all WWE matches."</div>
As I've said before, wrestling is theatrical. It is not a sport; it is entertainment. However, there is nothing fake about the injuries and the bodily breakdown that occur to those who participate in it. Now if everyone arguing for wrestling would please do me a favor and stop bringing up the damn inferno match. It is possibly the worst match type ever devised. Wrestling is supposed to be entertaining, but it also needs to have some sense of reality so that we can suspend our disbelief. The inferno match basically kills reality in one swoop because nobody in their right mind would compete in a contest that could end in their death. No promotion would ever intentionally kill it's stars with a gimmick match like that. We all know nobody is actually going to burn for more than a few seconds maximum. This is much different than a real situation because if the inferno match were real one or both guys would be completely engulfed very quickly. The inferno matches themselves more often than not suck and look completely "fake". If you want to see real brutality in a match that is actually good check out some old school Sabu or Cactus Jack from ECW or Japan. I personally suggest Hayabusa from the FMW promotion. Click the link below to see the unbelievable Electrified Barbed Wire Cage Exploding Ring Deathmatch between Hayabusa & Atsushi Onita. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZkCFMofL9_w
I hate scripted competitions and I hate how all the punches and kicks and take downs look extremely fake. It's just a bunch of idiots juiced up on roids, throwing themselves around and getting hurt. It's an insult to all the other sports to call WWE a sport or professional wrestling. I like to see people beating up on each other but only if it's real punches or using real moves in real wrestling...it's just funny to me to see those guys hurt themselves and they look so dumb doing this stuff probably because they couldn't make it in any real sport they even played or were too dumb to get a real job. They don't gain any respect in my book by throwing themselves off a cage for show. I like some of the chicks on there but some of them are also too roidy for me, nasty sh*t.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ASUFan22 @ Jan 17 2007, 11:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I hate scripted competitions and I hate how all the punches and kicks and take downs look extremely fake. It's just a bunch of idiots juiced up on roids, throwing themselves around and getting hurt. It's an insult to all the other sports to call WWE a sport or professional wrestling. I like to see people beating up on each other but only if it's real punches or using real moves in real wrestling...it's just funny to me to see those guys hurt themselves and they look so dumb doing this stuff probably because they couldn't make it in any real sport they even played or were too dumb to get a real job. They don't gain any respect in my book by throwing themselves off a cage for show. I like some of the chicks on there but some of them are also too roidy for me, nasty sh*t.</div>It's funny how you say that these wrestlers wouldn't make it in a real sport, because a lot of these wrestlers actually competed in college football like The Rock, JBL, Ron Simmons, and Brock Lesnar are just some examples.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ASUFan22 @ Jan 17 2007, 11:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I hate scripted competitions and I hate how all the punches and kicks and take downs look extremely fake. It's just a bunch of idiots juiced up on roids, throwing themselves around and getting hurt. It's an insult to all the other sports to call WWE a sport or professional wrestling. I like to see people beating up on each other but only if it's real punches or using real moves in real wrestling...it's just funny to me to see those guys hurt themselves and they look so dumb doing this stuff probably because they couldn't make it in any real sport they even played or were too dumb to get a real job. They don't gain any respect in my book by throwing themselves off a cage for show. I like some of the chicks on there but some of them are also too roidy for me, nasty sh*t.</div>As they say, ignorance is bliss. As pointed out in the post above, Brock Lesnar is a two time NCAA amateur wrestling champion. Kurt Angle was the 1996 Olympic Heavyweight Gold Medalist. Kauyuki Fujita is a former IWGP Champion and is currently one of the best heavyweights in the world fighting in PRIDE.As for intelligence, Mick Foley is a New York Times Bestselling Author while Tank Johnson is probably going to prison for having 1001 guns in his kitchen. Just like in real sports wrestling has it's share of dumbasses and highly intelligent people.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>I like some of the chicks on there but some of them are also too roidy for me, nasty sh*t.</div>The only one that comes to mind is Chyna, and idk she is real or fake. Other than that as much as I've watched wrestling I dont think I've seen a girl on roids
