Will Lebron James bring an MVP trophy to Cleveland this season? If it helps his case at all he finished 2nd in voting last season..A few more team wins could get him the extra votes needed.
He was robbed last year IMO. He brought that horrible team to the playoffs without LArry Hughes the whole season. He was consistent took over scored alot,passed often. So I say this year he cant be robbed again.
I agree he was robbed. His 2nd option was hurt half the year, and he brought a team that wasn't much different than the year before to 50+ wins, a 4 seed in playoffs, all the while averaging 32/7/7 on 48% shooting, leading league in triple doubles and breaking all kinds of records.Although this year, if Kobe can get team a few more wins, he deserves it over Bron. If Nash or Dirk gets it then I'll have to kill the voters.
I will be satisfied with Kobe or Lebron getting it. For Kobe, it is basically his last year to get an MVP unless his team miraculously becomes a top 3 or better team in the west. The reason I say its his last year isnt because his skill is going to decline a whole lot, but because he will have to compete with LBJ, Dwyane, and others. I think Lebron could do it this year, but I hope kobe does.
I dont see lebron winning it... I believe that Elton Brand will win ithe was the driving force behind the clippers success last year and yet came 7th in MVP voting, Brand improves every year so I expect him to win it, as well as the clippers to go deeper into the playoffs
It's going to be between LeBron and Kobe. I have voiced my opinion many times that Kobe was definitely robbed last year. He took Lamar Odom and trash to the Western Conference playoffs (7th seed, mind you), and forced a game 7 against the #2 seed. He lead the league in scoring and proved his true greatness, especially that night vs. Toronto (I don't even have to say it, but I will... 81). Steve Nash is a great player, but to think that he has more MVP's than Shaq, Kobe, and Iverson just bugs the hell out of me. It especially bugs me that Kobe Bryant has never won one.I hope Kobe gets one before he retires, that's all. If he doesn't get it this year it's going to be tough for the rest of his career with LeBron, Wade, and company.So, final prediction: Kobe vs. LeBron for MVP this season, I can't choose right now and you can't make me.
^Lmfao,Anyway It's going to come down to James and Kobe but if Hughes does not get hurt cavs have a HUGE shot at making a run and James has a way better shot at that MVP.If Nash wins the MVP again somthing is wrong with teh NBA!
If Larry Hughes stays healthy and he improves his defense/shooting he's got a great shot. He put up the numbers last season but it's the defense and winning that hurt him...hopefully the voters don't get suckered into Steve Nash again... :no1:
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Larry Hughes @ Oct 2 2006, 05:15 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>If Nash wins the MVP again somthing is wrong with teh NBA!</div>You fool. Why couldn't you tell something was wrong after this past years officiating? What makes you think that officiating isn't wrong?
If the Cavs place high enough, I think so. Wade probably wont get it because he has Shaq. There is no clear MVP on the Pistons, no one good enough to be MVP on the Bulls, and Vince Carter won't win MVP either. In the West, Nash won't win it 3 straight times, Dirk is a candidate, but I like Lebron over Dirk, and Tim has regressed as a player, and with Tony Parker coming into his own, I doubt he wins it either. Kobe on the other hand, will probably NOT win it because the Lakers won't finish high enough in the West.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CB4AllStar @ Oct 2 2006, 03:41 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>If the Cavs place high enough, I think so. Wade probably wont get it because he has Shaq. There is no clear MVP on the Pistons, no one good enough to be MVP on the Bulls, and Vince Carter won't win MVP either. In the West, Nash won't win it 3 straight times, Dirk is a candidate, but I like Lebron over Dirk, and Tim has regressed as a player, and with Tony Parker coming into his own, I doubt he wins it either. Kobe on the other hand, will probably NOT win it because the Lakers won't finish high enough in the West.</div>That's why I don't like MVP voting. It relies way too much on the team outcome rather than just how valuable an individual player is. It takes away from what the award really means.
^ I totally agree with that, because they factor in things that a player does affect, but has no real control over. It brings less value in the MVP award.You can't make everyone happy though.
Remove Kobe from the Lakers and you have the worst team in the league easily. Remove Bron and you still have a somehwhat decent team, not good but definitely not the worst either. No way Nash will win it again, the only players to win 3 MVP's were Russell, MJ and a few others I believe. On the other hand, these are the same voters who voted PJ Brown for MVP.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Michael Bryant @ Oct 2 2006, 06:23 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>That's why I don't like MVP voting. It relies way too much on the team outcome rather than just how valuable an individual player is. It takes away from what the award really means.</div>A lot of people forget, this is the MOST VALUABLE PLAYER award. NOT the best player in the league award. Which, by definition, means that the team said player is on, must be successful. If Kobe averages 68 points a game, but the Lakers dont make the playoffs, he shouldnt get the award. Not saying that the Lakers wont make the playoffs, just making a point.I really think its up for grabs this year. LeBron has a good shot, Kobe, Dirk, and EVEN Nash, all have a good shot. I think the reasoning behind Nash getting it last year was the fact that Amare was out. As much as people hate Nash, he really does make average players look like all stars. Look at how many of you are talking about Suns players being the most improved player this year and sixth man of the year. If you replace Nash with ALMOST any pg in the league, I dont believe those players look as good as they did last year. NOT sayin Nash REALLY deserved it, but a lot of people throw it aside like he shouldnt have even been in the running. Im just sayin that you can actually make a strong case for him.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Becar @ Oct 3 2006, 12:08 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>A lot of people forget, this is the MOST VALUABLE PLAYER award. NOT the best player in the league award. Which, by definition, means that the team said player is on, must be successful. If Kobe averages 68 points a game, but the Lakers dont make the playoffs, he shouldnt get the award. Not saying that the Lakers wont make the playoffs, just making a point.I really think its up for grabs this year. LeBron has a good shot, Kobe, Dirk, and EVEN Nash, all have a good shot. I think the reasoning behind Nash getting it last year was the fact that Amare was out. As much as people hate Nash, he really does make average players look like all stars. Look at how many of you are talking about Suns players being the most improved player this year and sixth man of the year. If you replace Nash with ALMOST any pg in the league, I dont believe those players look as good as they did last year. NOT sayin Nash REALLY deserved it, but a lot of people throw it aside like he shouldnt have even been in the running. Im just sayin that you can actually make a strong case for him.</div>I did some research on Nash "making players better" and found out alot of them were already good. Raja was already good in Utah before he came to Phoenix, Diaw improved so much because D'Antoni moved him closer to the basket. He wasn't very successful as a pointguard in ATL so they figured using his size will make him better. Barbosa just got more minutes.In no way am I saying Nash doesn't make them better but most of them were already good or just didn't receive as much playing time. Also, remove Nash from that 04-05 team and you still have a playoff team, Marion, Stoudemire, Joe are all fine players.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Heatfan32 @ Oct 2 2006, 09:13 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I did some research on Nash "making players better" and found out alot of them were already good. Raja was already good in Utah before he came to Phoenix, Diaw improved so much because D'Antoni moved him closer to the basket. He wasn't very successful as a pointguard in ATL so they figured using his size will make him better. Barbosa just got more minutes.In no way am I saying Nash doesn't make them better but most of them were already good or just didn't receive as much playing time. Also, remove Nash from that 04-05 team and you still have a playoff team, Marion, Stoudemire, Joe are all fine players.</div>I definetly think Nash deserved it the first year. We would not have been a playoff team without him unless we had another good point guard. Just a good one then we could've gotten in somewhere. But he was the one that made the team a contender.To the rest of the post. :rock: I like Nash and I'm a big Suns fan and I still don't think he deserved that 2nd MVP.
