JFK

Nova is one of the few big budget true science shows out there. You can criticize all you want but I'm sure you've enjoyed more than just a few episodes.

Now about these books and experts, while I have never read any of them I have listened to the 2 or 3 yearly conspiracy specials that Coast to Coast AM has every year. They give an hour to an expert and let them explain their take on the assassination. The show is 4 hours long so you get a pretty good variety of theories about the assassination. And before you go there, C2CAM is very pro conspiracy.

So, like you say there are many experts and theories out there, they can't all be right. Do you have one author or theory that you believe in more than the others? And please, don't just say something vague like the CIA did it. I'm truly interested in why you so strenuously don't believe one person can do something so horrible. What exactly do you think happened that day?

 

Tell me why the books about the moon landing hoax are scholarly.

 

Here's your expert, jlprk

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erich_von_Däniken

This expert wrote 8 books about ancient astronauts. 8 books! Must be true.

There's even pictures in the books.

 

http://www.dallasnews.com/news/jfk5...heories-abound-despite-a-lack-of-evidence.ece

It’s time to accept that Lee Harvey Oswald killed President John F. Kennedy all by himself, according to a growing consensus of historians, journalists and legal scholars who have investigated the case for decades.

The 50th anniversary of the assassination on Friday seems the perfect occasion to settle the historical facts once and for all. But that would require an emphatic rejection of fanciful conspiracy theories. And that’s not likely. Most Americans still believe Oswald did not act alone, according to public opinion polls.

“People cannot believe someone as inconsequential as Oswald could kill someone as consequential as an American president,” said historian Robert Dallek, author of An Unfinished Life, a 2003 JFK biography. “The city of Dallas would be well-served by accepting and supporting the proposition that Oswald was the only killer.”

The lone-gunman theory, however, is pretty boring compared to a good murder mystery starring conspiratorial characters lurking through myriad subplots played out in dark corners.

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Problems arose when so-called assassination researchers went too far, connecting dots and publishing conspiracy theories with no evidence to back them up. Who Really Killed JFK? became a cottage industry.

Lawrence Wright, a Pulitzer Prize-winning author, grew up in Dallas during the 1960s and has written extensively about the assassination’s impact on him, his family and his East Dallas community. He is among those who believe acceptance of Oswald as the lone gunman is long overdue.

“Conspiracy theories, like flies, they gather around big dead things,” said Wright, a staff writer at The New Yorker. “Lee Harvey Oswald acted alone. There is so much evidence, it’s ridiculous to think there is another explanation.”

 

Cashing in on a remarkable litany of falsehoods and misrepresentations and exaggerations and omissions. 205 million $reasons to perpetuate the fraud.

http://www.timescall.com/ci_24446673/50-years-finding-profit-truth-jfk-case

One film, critics say, has done more than anything to shape the public's perception of the assassination: That's Oliver Stone's 1991 drama, “JFK.”

“He made this kind of paranoid conspiracy theory respectable,” says New York writer Arthur Goldwag, author of “Cults, Conspiracies, and Secret Societies.”

The movie tells the story of New Orleans District Attorney Jim Garrison, played by Kevin Costner. Garrison remains the only prosecutor to bring someone to trial for an alleged conspiracy to kill Kennedy.

The film is “a remarkable litany of falsehoods and misrepresentations and exaggerations and omissions,” Posner says. “The reason that I'm so hard on Stone is because he's such a good filmmaker. If he was a schlocky filmmaker, it wouldn't matter.”

Shermer, of the Skeptics Society, agrees that Stone's role in stirring the conspiracy pot is “huge.”

“You tell somebody a good story, that's more powerful than tons of data, charts and graphs and statistics,” he says. “And Oliver Stone's a good storyteller. He's biased and he's very deceptive, and I don't trust him at all. But the movie's great.”

Stone's publicist said the director had “chosen to pass on this opportunity” to comment.

“JFK” took in more than $205 million at the box office, nearly two-thirds of that overseas, and has since raked in untold millions more in television royalties, pay-per-view, and videocassette and DVD rentals. The film is returning for brief re-runs in some New York and Los Angeles theaters.

 

http://www.nola.com/politics/index.ssf/2013/11/jfk_assassination_conspiracy_j.html

Because Oswald's killing, captured live on television, destroyed the chance to hear any testimony he might have provided, it opened the floodgates to a tsunami of speculation about Kennedy's murder. It also gave rise to questions about Ruby.

Who was he? How did he get into the the Dallas Police Department basement headquarters with a gun? Why did he do it? Was it because, as he originally stated, he wanted to spare the president's widow the agony of testifying against the man accused of killing her husband? Or was Ruby part of a conspiracy to ensure that Oswald never talked?

This much is known: Jack Ruby, born Jacob Rubenstein in Chicago in 1911, moved to Dallas in 1947 and managed a series of nightclubs and strip clubs. At the time of the assassination, he owned the Carousel Club in downtown Dallas and the Vegas Club in the city's Oak Lawn district.

Because of Ruby's years in the netherworld of Dallas nightlife, there were allegations that he had dealt with organized-crime figures, but the Warren Commission and the House Select Committee on Assassinations both concluded that he was not involved in mob activities.

On the other side of the law, Ruby had no shortage of friends on the police force, who were treated royally when they visited his clubs. One officer even called Ruby by name as the nightclub owner stepped forward to pull the trigger.

On the night of the president's assassination, Ruby stood in the middle of a group of reporters at a news conference at Dallas Police headquarters. According to an FBI report, Ruby told agents that he was carrying a loaded snub-nosed Colt Cobra .38 revolver in his right-hand pocket that night.

He was toting the weapon again two days later as he made his way into the basement of police headquarters, just as officers were getting ready to transfer Oswald from the building to the county jail.

Even though Ruby may have counted on his friendships with police officers to be able to gain access to that part of the building, he apparently didn't need to do so. In its report, the House Select Committee on Assassinations said it was "troubled by the apparently unlocked doors along the stairway route and the removal of security guards from the area of the garage nearest the stairway shortly before the shooting."

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In a post-conviction news conference, Ruby said unnamed, high-ranking individuals were responsible for his plight and would suppress the truth about Oswald's slaying. According to The (London) Sunday Times, Ruby told a psychiatrist that he had been framed to kill Oswald and that he knew who ordered Kennedy's killing.

But people who knew Ruby knew better. In an interview Gerald Posner conducted for his book "Case Closed," Tony Zoppi, a Dallas reporter, said anyone "would have to be crazy" to make Ruby part of a conspiracy because he "couldn't keep a secret for five minutes. Jack ... just plain talked too much."

After more than two years of maintaining that others were involved in killing Oswald, Ruby reversed his position in December 1966 -- less than a month before his death -- in an interview with The Associated Press that he granted as he lay in his hospital bed.

"There is nothing to hide," Ruby was quoted as saying. "There was no one else."

 

I didn't ridicule you, I asked out of all of the experts, books and theories out there about the assassination which one specifically do you believe.

 

Right. No overlap.

One book says it was the Cubans.

Another book says it was the Mafia.

Another book says it was the CIA.

Another book says it was LBJ.

Well, there is overlap. Some books pick some combination of the above.

But carry on.

 

LOL

There's only the facts that actually are. As few as they may be.

When you want to make a conspiracy theory, you have to make stuff up. You know, like they burned the autopsy report (that was parroted here by someone, no?)

 

There are autopsy photos.



Anyhow, JFK would be a conservative by today's measures. Religious, anti-abortion, pro tax cut, anti communist, etc.

 

Freedom riders?

JFK and RFK sat on their asses for weeks while those guys got their asses kicked in those southern towns.