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  1. Denny Crane

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    Simple Rating
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    Deng +11.7
    Butler +11.1
    Boozer +7.7
    Dunleavy +4.8
    Nazr +2.0
    Gibson +1.7
    Hinrich -5.2
    Noah -8.0
    Rose -10.9
    Snell -47.7

    I'll dig a little deeper in my follow ups.
     
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    Lu has an 18.3 PER at SF, and the guys he guards have a 11.9 PER.

    He's one of few offensive weapons we have. On court, we score 108.1 points per 100 possessions. Off court, 93.4.

    On defense, we give up a whopping 106.5 points per 100 with him off the court, and 95.7 with him on the court.

    I'd love to see us winning games 107-96 all the time :)
     
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    Jimmy's defense has been nothing short of fantastic. That's what I see when I watch the games. Against Charlotte, they went at Kirk using Gerald Henderson and his overall better athleticism. When Jimmy replaced Kirk, they tried to post up Henderson against him and it was absolutely pointless. Jimmy was that good.

    The 82games.com stats seem to agree with what I see:

    17 PER at SG, opposing SGs have a 4.1 PER. Though it's hard to judge if he's playing SF or SG when Deng is out and Dunleavy is in.

    He has a similar effect on the game as Lu. 108 Points per 100 while he's on the court, 97.7 when he's off.

    Oddly, the points per 100 on defense is 98.5 with him on or off the court.
     
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    Boozer sports an 18.9 PER against PFs and a 33.2 PER against C's. What? He's playing 18% of the C minutes, according to 82games.com, so it is relevant. 33.2 PER? WOW.

    Opposing Cs are putting up just a 9.5 PER against him.

    At PF the numbers are 18.9 PER for / 14.1 PER against.

    Offense per 100 is 107.9 on court vs. 97.7 off. A 10 point difference. He's one of three players on the team that can score semi-consistently, so that figures.

    Defense per 100 is 99.6 on court vs. 96.6 off. A 3 point difference. 10 vs. 3 is 7. The simple rating.

    Like I've said before, I'm not seeing the Bulls amnestying Boozer. They actually are paying the LT, so why not pay him because he's actually good for us?
     
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    Dunleavy must block out the sun with his height or something.

    At SG, opponents have a 4.0 PER against him and at SF they have a 4.3 PER against him.

    At SG, he puts up a 17.7 PER, and at SF a 5.7 PER.

    Like I said, when he and Jimmy are both in, it's hard to tell who's the SG and who's the SF. 82games has him playing 27% of the SG minutes and 17% of the SF minutes.

    For a guy brought in for his offense, the on/off numbers are flipped. We score 101.8 with him on the court, 106.2 when he's off. On defense, 94.9 scored against us while he's on, 101.3 when he's sitting.

    With those kind of numbers, he should be playing 48 minutes every game.

    But I think he's guarding opponents' worst offensive player and 82games.com isn't catching it. My eye tells me Dewyane Wade makes him look silly trying to guard him.
     
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    Taj has numbers almost like Boozer's. A 45 PER for the 2% of the C minutes he played but with a 29.4 PER against. I never thought he could play C at either end, sorry. He's a very fine backup PF though. He's easily top 5 in the league.

    At PF, he has a 14 PER with opponents putting up a surprising 14.9 PER against. He gets 50% of the team's PF minutes.

    On offense, we score 103 with him on the court, 105.7 off. The reverse of Boozer, as we give up 95.2 points with him on the court and 7 more off. A net plus, obviously, as the simple rating indicates.
     
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    82games.com suggests pairing Kirk with Rose may not be such a good idea after all.

    He has an 11.5 PER at PG and a 10.6 PER at SG. On defense, opposing PGs have a 12.3 PER (a net negative) and opposing SGs have a 26.0 PER (the guy is supposed to be good at defense?).

    It sure looks to me like my eyes aren't deceiving me. I see opposing teams go at him whenever possible.

    On offense, we score 102.3 points per 100 with him on the court, 107.0 when he's off. Sorry, transplant, but I think this is because he dribbles the ball way too much when Rose isn't in.

    On defense, we give up 100.4 points with him on court, 96.1 with him off court.

    Did I say I thought they guy was supposed to be good at defense?

    For your amusement, he has a "hands" rating of -55.6
     
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    Noah gets 60% of the minutes at C.

    Something just isn't right with him this season.

    He's putting up an 18.1 PER on offense, which is at the low end of his PER range the past several seasons. BBRef has him at 15.8 PER which is his worst since being a rookie.

    On defense, he gives up a 24.0 PER.

    I'd like to chalk this all up to his being out for much of preseason and having some rust, but in the 9th game he had 11 points on 4-11 shooting with 7 rebounds and 1 block. That's just not his typical stat line.

    The on/off numbers are freakishly bad for him, too.

    On court, we score 103.9, but we score 104.9 with him off.

    On defense, we give up 104.6 with him on court, and 88.8 with him off.

    We've played Indy twice, which is a tough game no matter how you look at it. The rest of the games have been against pretty soft teams.
     
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    I almost hate to write about Rose here. It's like he was abducted and replaced by a pod person or something. He just isn't the same guy we all knew. We do see flashes, but he's not all there.

    7.7 PER at PG where he gets 57% of the minutes. 13.6 PER against. We're giving up quite a bit more than we're getting from him so far.

    On offense, we score 103.8 with him on court, 105.0 off. A net loss of 1.2 points.
    On defense, we give up 105 points per 100 and we're a very stingy 89.4 per 100 with him off the court.
     

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