Kennedy sent Katzenbach to protect them. Kennedy took on George Wallace and enrolled James Meredith. My cousin was a Freedom Rider, then lieutenant in Vietnam, then wrote a hit antiwar song, the died mysteriously. He wasn't hurt as a Freedom Rider. Very few were. It was the 70s-80s, not the 60s, that were dangerous.
Here is an interesting interview of Governor Connally, describing the event. His recollection matches very well with the Zapruder film, and totally undermines the "magic bullet theory" [video=youtube;4svgOqQmS3o]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4svgOqQmS3o[/video] Notice how when he says he turned around because of the shot, Kennedy had already long been hit, then he turns around and feels the hit. 2 bullets.
http://agora.stanford.edu/sjls/Issue One/fisher&tversky.htm Recognizing the fallibility of witness memories, then, is especially important to participants in the judicial process, since many trials revolve around factual determinations of whom to believe. Rarely will a factual question result in a successful appeal—effectively giving many parties only one chance at justice. Arriving at a just result and a correct determination of truth is difficult enough without the added possibility that witnesses themselves may not be aware of inaccuracies in their testimony. Several studies have been conducted on human memory and on subjects’ propensity to remember erroneously events and details that did not occur. Elizabeth Loftus performed experiments in the mid-seventies demonstrating the effect of a third party’s introducing false facts into memory.4 Subjects were shown a slide of a car at an intersection with either a yield sign or a stop sign. Experimenters asked participants questions, falsely introducing the term "stop sign" into the question instead of referring to the yield sign participants had actually seen. Similarly, experimenters falsely substituted the term "yield sign" in questions directed to participants who had actually seen the stop sign slide. The results indicated that subjects remembered seeing the false image. In the initial part of the experiment, subjects also viewed a slide showing a car accident. Some subjects were later asked how fast the cars were traveling when they "hit" each other, others were asked how fast the cars were traveling when they "smashed" into each other. Those subjects questioned using the word "smashed" were more likely to report having seen broken glass in the original slide. The introduction of false cues altered participants’ memories.
That was a post of a desperate man. I propose that everyone bookmark that and post it in reply to Denny when he refers to any Republican memory of any political history.
What, that eye witness testimony isn't reliable? It's desperate to deny the science and jurisprudence. You win that prize. What's really funny is your "experts" use a lot of eyewitness testimony. A woman says she saw Castro pull the trigger himself. Then you see photos or film of the woman (who was there) looking at her shoes.
Alone. Ha! I have a good friend who is making a movie about the Warren Commission. One day I was at his house and he asked me if I wanted to see proof of the Kennedy conspiracy. 'Of course,' I said. He then showed me a big-screen, slo-mo version of the Zapruder film. When you watch it, it is obvious that the president gets hit from two different angles - once from the back (where Oswald was - you can see the president slump forward after the first shot) and then again from the front (this is the grassy knoll. You can then see how he ricochets backwards after getting hit a second time, in the forehead.). Forward, backward. Two different shots, two different people, two different angles, one conspiracy. I found a version of the film online. Warning - it is very graphic and grusome when he gets hit from the front. But if you are interested, it is proof that it was a conspiracy that killed the president. Slo Mo Zapruder Film
Your buddy has a forensics related degree? http://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/re...sassination/p2uA8QQEAQN8Y2qaZMNCyJ/story.html Dr. Peter Cummings, a forensic neuropathologist from Beverly, had a front-row seat to history when he examined the former president’s clothing, along with X-rays and autopsy photographs, for “Cold Case JFK,’’ a special episode of the PBS science show “Nova.” “The gravity of the situation just really hit me,” Cummings, 42, said of his experience. “The president’s suit, right there in front of me — I wasn’t just walking through a museum, seeing a display. I was participating in history.” “Nova’’ arranged for researchers to apply modern forensic science and ballistic testing to try to answer questions that still fuel conspiracy theories a half-century after that fateful day — Nov. 22, 1963 — in Dallas. From which direction was the fatal shot fired? Where did it strike the president? “It was a single gunshot wound to the back of his head,” Cummings said without hesitation. “It was right where the autopsy doctors said it had happened.” The president’s clothes provided valuable clues. “I was mostly interested in the shirt and tie,” said Cummings, who specializes in gunshot wounds to the head. “I wanted to see the location of a hole in the shirt, to see if it was consistent with a gunshot wound. It was.” Cummings made his conclusions after spending eight months poring over thousands of pages of hearing transcripts, medical testimony, and other materials available online from the national archives. In September, he traveled to Maryland to examine the slain president’s clothing and original autopsy materials. Access is limited to federal government officials and qualified researchers, who must be approved by the Kennedy family. The restriction aims to “prevent the undignified or sensational use of the materials or any other use which would . . . dishonor the memory of the late president, or cause unnecessary grief or suffering to members of his family,” the National Archives said in a statement to the Globe. Cummings had a strict limit on how long he would be able to examine the materials, he said. “When the door closed, I knew I only had two hours. I just sat down and looked at the photographs,” he said. “I treated it like any other gunshot wound case.” The president’s clothing has been kept in a deep cold storage, Cummings said. “It looks pristine. I could not believe it was 50 years old. It’s so well-preserved, “ he said. With the X-rays and photos spread before him on a table, Cummings wrote notes about fracture patterns, lacerations, bruising, and other injuries to the skull. “The quality is fantastic. Once I saw those photographs, it became very clear what had happened to President Kennedy . . . It was a single gunshot wound to the back of the head. Based on the fracture pattern, we can say there was no shot from the side or the front.” (more at the link, detailing the procedures these highly trained forensic specialists went through to come to their conclusion, as well as their qualifications and work history)
All you have to do Denny is watch it and decide for yourself. To me, and anyone I know who has seen this version, it is obvious he gets hit from the front. Who are you going to believe, some forensic pathologist, or your own eyes? SloMo Video
The forensic pathologist. If you watch the Nova program, they explain the backward movement by JFK after getting shot as his brain getting scrambled sent impulses to all his muscles which contracted. The back muscles are stronger than the front ones, so he jerked backwards. When they look at his actual skull and see only evidence of him being shot from behind, then the film is fooling you.
BTW, this photo is JFK Exhibit F-302 from the House Subcommittee on Assassinations evidence file. "Drawing representing one of the brain photographs from JFK's post-mortem examination and held in the National Archives." Sure looks like the bullet destroyed the right side of his brain and front to back, not from the side as in a grassy knoll type shot.
Here is the hole in his shirt, note how much lower it is than his throat. For the bullet to have gone from there to his throat he'd have to be leaning way forward, and the film doesn't show that. And Denny, your little rant about "witness memory" is a very weak argument, because Connally's recollection coincides with the Zapruder film.
That is so strained as to defy logic. "Brain contraction" cannot overcome the laws of physics. You get you head blasted off from the front and you fall backwards, period. Especially at that velocity. If I got shot in the arm, there is no way my arm muscles overcome the power of a sniper rifle. Brain scrambles. Comeon.
No offense, but the M.D. says it does, and you (not an M.D.) say it doesn't. Why should I believe you?
In the documentaries they used to show every 5 years (1978, 83, 88, etc.) there were forensic pathologists and M.D.s galore saying that it couldn't possibly have been Oswald alone. But now your guy, age 42, born 8 years after the assassination, examines what he admits looks like new clothes. Gee, I wonder which agency this doctor works with part-time. I wonder which one you do.
Denny, why don't you explain your single bullet theory to JOE PESCI!!! [video=youtube;3ema7lfEAMk]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ema7lfEAMk[/video]
No, and the army doctors at Bethesda Hospital had never done a forensic examination before, and were ordered to not fully examine the body (they did not dissect the wounds to the back or neck for example. The guy who took the autopsy pictures at the hospital testified that he did not take the pictures that are currently in the national archives.
Years ago I read a book by a lead surgeon who tried to revive Kennedy. The surgeon told of many suspicious things going on before, during, and after the surgery. He felt the government had killed him. Here's an article from last week about another surgeon in the room. These are doctors who were there, not some clown born 8 years later. http://philadelphia.cbslocal.com/20...approaches-surgeon-who-treated-jfk-remembers/
