Which ex-Blazer would you be happy to get back?

If we got Miller, he'd play the same role as Mo Williams (but probably do a much better job). Come in off the bench and spell Matthews, and let Lillard shift to SG. In a Nate McMillan offense it wouldn't work because it required the ball-dominant star to dribble a lot. In our offense, though, nobody has the ball for more than a few seconds (unless it's in the post or on a drive). We'd be giving up some perimeter shooting in favor of a guard who can post up a little and also deliver an insane number of lobs to Aldridge/Batum/Wes/Lillard/Lopez.

I absolutely love Andre Miller's game, and I'd be thrilled to somehow swap him straight across for Mo.

After Dec 15, we actually could do that trade according to Trade Machine. We'd have to throw in some contracts (Barton? Earl Watson?) Might make sense if Denver doesn't want to pay the $5m for Andre's second year (they only run him 19mpg), because we have cheap 1-year deals we could give up.

With as many shooters and lob targets as we have on this team, it's just about a perfect scenario for Andre Miller to come in and succeed. He's not really the mentoring type, but Lillard is such a student of the game that I could see him learning a lot from Dre just being around him. So much of what Dre does (score inside, play physical, throw lobs, set up teammates) are Lillards' weaker points. Mo Williams isn't much of a mentor, other than an example of how Damian Lillard can be a worse version of Damian Lillard.

I know that Mo only came here because he liked Olshey, so I suppose it's not likely Olshey throws him under the bus on that team, especially with our team clicking so well. But it's interesting to think about.

 

Just having watched both of them play, they are very different players...the #s might jive up but how they got them not so much

 

Does not compute. Why don't we wish for a magical unicorn while we're at it. And sneakers made of flubber.

 

Just to add to my earlier post, Lillard, Mo and CJ are all cut from the same cloth. When CJ comes back, he's going to be another guy who is duplicative of Damian (but in a less impressive way, much like Mo).

Andre Miller would sure be nice as a change-of-pace type of PG who makes defenses completely re-think how they defend us when he comes in.

 

What's to dispute?

Roy's rookie line - 16.8 ppg, 4.0 assists, 4.4 rebounds, 45.6% FG
Lillard's rookie line - 19.0 ppg, 6.5 assists, 3.1 rebounds, 43% FG

They're actually having nearly identical sophomore seasons, but Lillard is struggling from the field and I think that will improve:

Roy's 2nd year - 19.1 ppg, 5.8 assists, 4.7 rebounds, 45% FG
Lillard's 2nd year - 19.9 ppg, 5.8 assists, 3.9 rebounds, 39.6% FG

But Lillard does have a higher win-share, a better offensive rating, a better defensive rating, better TS%, and a much better 3P% but that's to be expected. I think once Lillard's shooting levels off, he'll pull away from Roy in terms of a second season.

 

Honestly the Sabas from his rookie season would of been great

 

The Sabas from the 80's would be better.

 

I would have loved him, but I thought we were limited to actual games played as a blazer. I went back as far as I could

 

I think we're actually limited to active players.

 

Son of a bitch!

 

Or wish for the next Teen Wolf!

 

PER normalizes for pace (remember mcmuffin?) and Roy wins handily thus far

 

So you can only point to PER?

 

I can only point to this
:http://www.basketball-reference.com...sum=1&p1=roybr01&y1=2008&p2=lillada01&y2=2014

If you'd like to continue I'm not sure what to say, Roy had a better ortg,drtg,per, lower USG, better WS/48, less TOs, and got to the line more

 

Joel Przybilla, Andre Miller, Patty Mills, Pendy, Marty, Jarrett, and Dante.

 

Okay, so Dame has a better ortg, drtg, TS%, lower USG, and WSPER48 as a sophomore....

 

Those are primarily teammate dependant stats, if that's what you want to base your argument on...

 

I don't know why you think it's so clear cut.

You point to advanced stats as an advantage to Roy despite getting blown out of the water in terms of per game stats during their rookie years, but when Dame is beating Roy in those same advanced stats during their sophomore seasons, it means nothing?

 

Then why did you bring them up when comparing their rookie seasons?