The Bench

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  1. blue9

    blue9 Well-Known Member

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    If the Nets continue to crumble think we can get JET? Is he any good now? Maybe we can trade 'em...who's our current G.Wallace?...for JET and a draft pick!? Ah heck - just offer 'em Leonard!
     
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    I just looked and it appears he's fallen off a cliff.
     
  3. Mediocre Man

    Mediocre Man Mr. SportsTwo

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    Since the team is in win now mode, I would really rather this team grab a big.

    Playoff proven, defensive minded vet 4/5

    Any ideas?

    I was looking at teams tanking and couldn't really find a good fit. Maybe Jason Thompson or Chuck Hayes?
     
  4. Boob-No-More

    Boob-No-More Why you no hire big man coach?

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    Which makes him perfect for his role on this team: head towel waver.

    BNM
     
  5. Boob-No-More

    Boob-No-More Why you no hire big man coach?

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    Some posters give Mo shit about shooting too much, but he's averaging 4.5 apg in only 25 minutes and has the highest AST% on the team. Yes, he's a streaky shooter, but his passing is a big reason for our improved bench. If you follow the links I posted earlier in this thread, you'll see apg is one of the few areas our bench outperforms our opponents.

    Our bench averages 6.8 apg in only 67.3 minutes compared to 6.2 apg in 86.9 minutes for our opponents.

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  6. Rastapopoulos

    Rastapopoulos Well-Known Member

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    Dunno about "playoff proven". Is Jason Thompson a defender? I've never thought of him like that. Chuck Hayes appears to have crashed and burned.
    I'm still in favor of Ekpe Udoh or maybe Zaza Pachulia.
     
  7. blue9

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    Not really. It sounds like you're thinking more realistically. The only thing that's been stuck in my head is trying to deal CJ/Leonard for Noah.
    But others are talking about needing a more consistent scoring punch off the bench - that's where my thought about Terry came in.
    Personally I think I agree with the scoring punch off the bench. I'm good with Lopez/LMA/Freeland/Robinson. If we can upgrade Lopez I'd be for it, but just a small upgrade to a small role doesn't seem worth it - Freeland is holding his own and Robinson will develop into a good player. Giving up on Robinson for Thompson/Hayes would be a big mistake, IMO.
     
  8. PtldPlatypus

    PtldPlatypus Let's go Baby Blazers! Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

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    Outside of the "playoff-proven" aspect, you're looking at lot of the same people we talked about this summer. Chandler, Dalembert, Koufos, Pachulia. Not a ton of options fitting those criteria.
     
  9. Boob-No-More

    Boob-No-More Why you no hire big man coach?

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    Which is exactly what Sacramento did. Not the franchise we want to model ourselves after.

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  10. Mediocre Man

    Mediocre Man Mr. SportsTwo

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    Ya

    Maybe Hawes fits that a bit as well....Minus the playoff proven

    It's just my opinion though. Not sure anyone else really feels the need for a quality big off the bench like I do
     
  11. Boob-No-More

    Boob-No-More Why you no hire big man coach?

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    Chandler is injured, and with Marc Gasol injured, Koufas is staring for Memphis. So, I doubt he's available (although that may change if Memphis continues to struggle after Gasol and Randolph come back). There just aren't many good options out there.

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    Realistic is how I am looking at it. Chicago would laugh it' sass off if we offered Leonar_ and McCollum for Noah
    Scoring off the bench is a tough one for me because mo Chuck and Wright can both do that, as well as probably McCollum
    I'm not talking about upgrading Lopez. I am talking about upgrading Freeland and Robinson this year, by giving up Leonar_ and another bench guy to a tanking team
    Never suggested Robinson for Hayes and Thompson. No idea where you got that from
     
  13. Boob-No-More

    Boob-No-More Why you no hire big man coach?

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    It's too bad Larry Sanders is injured and an idiot. Same for Javale McGee. Milwaukee and Denver seemed to be the two teams with a surplus of bigs, but with their shot blocking starting centers out, they suddenly have a lot less depth up front.

    And no, I DON'T want Javale McGee, even if healthy. Just saying that if he wasn't injured (and Denver doing surprisingly well), someone like Mosgov may have been available.

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    the whole playoff proven part doesn't apply, and there is virtually no way to get him, but John Henson would be the perfect guy for us off the bench
     
  15. blue9

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    I wasn't saying you suggested it - I'm just saying I wouldn't give up on Robinson for that level of player. Just to reiterate - I'm good with Freeland/Robinson as our backups. If we upgrade our front court I'd only be interested in upgrading Lopez, which in turn would upgrade the backups by making Lopez one (unless he's included in the trade) - double-whammy!
    And just to get back on the topic of Freeland - I've always hated but admired Nick Collison. The fact that Freeland has emulated his game is awesome - it's something we need and I don't think you can really improve on what he's doing, outside of getting Collison...who might be getting old and ready for a dive?
     
  16. Boob-No-More

    Boob-No-More Why you no hire big man coach?

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    If Milwaukee is rebuilding, as they seem to be, he's the LAST guy they'd be willing to trade - unless someone had a lottery pick to offer them. We don't. Might be able to get Zaza from them after Sanders comes back. During the summer, I didn't want him, because I didn't see how he'd fit in with this team - especially for what Milwaukee is paying him. But, at this point, I'm not even looking for someone to be part of the rotation. I'd be happy adding a big body with a pulse for insurance in case one of our bigs gets injured we need a temporary replacement. Pachulia would fill that role (but he's still overpaid and for too long).

    BNM
     
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    Who is this magical guy you speak of? Does he exist? Furthermore, how do we have minutes for this guy yet have no minutes for CJ?
     
  18. Nikolokolus

    Nikolokolus There's always next year

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    Pachulia is on the right track even if he's not the right player in this particular situation. That caliber is about the best your'e going to get mid-season with the assets we have to offer.
     
  19. Boob-No-More

    Boob-No-More Why you no hire big man coach?

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    Yep, a big body with a pulse who can fill in if someone gets injured. The only problem I have with Zaza is that ridiculous contract. What we really need a is a CHEAP big body with a pulse. I can't believe Milwaukee gave Zaza 2.6 times as much for 3 times as long ($5.2 million a year for 3 years) as Golden State gave Jermaine (one year at $2 million).

    BNM
     
  20. Draco

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    Mo shoots 13.0 shots per 36 minutes. Crawford shoots 17.1, more than Lillard and nearly as much as Aldridge. I’m glad we don’t have a ball hog like Crawford on the team. Do you remember when he wouldn’t pass the ball to an open Batum? It wasn’t one game it was most of a season. Mo will make those passes, his shots are within the flow of the offense. Mo shoots when the defense is giving him room and an opening, or he shoots if the shot clock is winding down. Mo had 5 straight games he was in double figures for us. This team doesn’t need a streaky ball hog bench players to get 30 in a game.
     

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