We need bench scoring.... badly.

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  1. Mediocre Man

    Mediocre Man Mr. SportsTwo

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    There is a thread on the old forum titled "deal coming soon" by me regarding the same deal. I was crucified for it because there was such a delay. All good though...These guys never let up :)
     
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    July called, said Camby was bought out 5 months ago…

    Not to mention he was horrific in NY last year and quit on his team in Portland, of which we have three starters. That might be the worst suggestion someone could come up with.
     
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    BlazerCaravan Hug a Bigot... to Death

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    In some way, the man's a hero for being that malcontent. Can you imagine Nate with Lillard? Or not getting Lillard because we won too many games?
     
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    magnifier661 B-A-N-A-N-A-S!

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    You are right and the forum never listens to you. Is this what you want to advertise? I think we've heard this enough to understand this is what you want to hear.
     
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    How about we let this cake bake and make a run for Durant in 2016! :ghoti:
     
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    Back to the bench... anyone else notice that Mo and Dorell are playing Buddy Ball out there? Mo will either shoot or pass to Dorell, effectively freezing out Damian in the second quarter.
     
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    That would be more amenable if they were hitting a higher percentage of their shots.

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  8. Natebishop3

    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    I half wish we had kept Maynor. Damian played excellent basketball with Maynor.
     
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    They did play well together offensively but defensively, it was difficult to even find where they ranked as a duo because most tracking doesn't go that low. :garden:

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    Huh?
     
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    I still want Andre Miller back. Easy buckets for Lamarcus while Damian is on the bench and 10 mpg w/Lillard where he gets to truly play off the ball.

    I would totally dump Mo for him in the hopes that CJ could replicate a lot of what Mo does for us.

    Lillard (30)/Andre (18)
    Wes (28) / Lillard (6) / CJ (14)

    A lot of versatility in that backcourt. Although defense would be a weakspot I think the offensive flow would be much better with spurts of Andre Miller than Mo's streaky play.
     
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    Not that this affects the Blazers but Omar Asik just switched agents to Arn Tellem. Maybe he thinks that will help get him moved more quickly.

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  13. Natebishop3

    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    I would love to get Dre back, but I'm not sure if he's available and if Lowry could be had, he's a better defender.
     
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    Of course he is. But he doesn't have 1/10 of the PG skills. The offense would run smooth with Dre even when the shots aren't falling. I just think we have enough backcourt defense (if we had a good b/u big defender), that I would value a floor general more than the return on better D from our backcourt I guess.
     
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    I like the idea of bringing back Miller, but Denver is currently in the playoff hunt. Not sure they're going to trade him.
     
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    Nikolokolus There's always next year

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    No he doesn't have 1/10th the Point guard skills of Miller. It's more like 7/10ths.
     
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    If we do a trade I think the aim needs to be for postseason success. 2 or 3 extra wins from the bench in the regular season isn’t that important.

    The starters will be playing more minutes in the postseason since there are no back to backs and reduced travel. We have the #1 ranked offensive team in the league. If we do any sort of trade to help the postseason I would target a defensive player.

    I loved Andre Miller when he was here but a trade for him makes no sense. In the postseason teams eliminate easy buckets which is what Miller is best at. The opponents are better defenders, and the way to make a defense pay for doubling is with distance shooting. While I don’t think Miller is entirely to blame for never winning a playoff series, I do think a large part of his failure is playoff ball slowing down and long range shooting being more important.
     
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    We've had highly ranked offenses before (efficiency-wise) in the regular season that didn't work well int he playoffs. I completely disagree about playoff games, Miller has delivered in the playoffs before, he's just been on terribly outmatched middling teams.

    Defenses are going to be playing us with more intensity in the post-season and open shots will be harder to come by. Someone who can create for others and feed Lamarcus open shots and feed him post up opportunities in the post is essential.

    At this point on our team Batum is the only guy who can consistently do that, and we know how spotty his play can be some times. I think that is more essential for the playoffs than a defensive player personally. With Wes' intensity, Batum's defensive versatility, and Lillard's competitiveness I think our D will be okay. Right now the offense wouldn't work very well if you bring in any defensive guy who's not a great shooter (unless he can create and you modify the offense a little bit).
     
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    Well that, and because it was a completely different deal, you said rjeff if I remember correctly.
     
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    Miller never made it past the first round. I would rather have players that have learned how to win after making the playoffs. Sorry, it's a no for me
     

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