RANGERS-COLUMBUS THREAD

Off to good start as the prince whifs on another one he should have had. Don't mind saying wouldn't mind seeinf cam for a few games tell the prince snaps out of his coma and becomes the king again

Stupid play by McIlrath has to know you cannot step Up like that with 3 forwards in the offensive zone. that's a stupid play on any level

hank gives up his 3rd goal in the first 12 minutes and mercifully cam is in. Hank's mind is in russia already

Lol the game is already over. 12 minutes

AV needs to double shift both kreider and nash so their playing 25 minutes a night till reinforcements get here if ever

Another stellar effort from Hank, I guess he is still worried over his contract...oh wait. Not that he has much in front of him these days but...

Once again outplayed by an AHL goalie.

And how about Dubinski? the whipping boy for Dump and others who is on pace for 20gls and 65gms while still providing the other intangibles he has.

Nash really is up for his former team. -2 and no leadership.
If Sather really believes Richards has anything to offer, he should retire yesterday.
Hank has his money,,,,he's done.
This team may not win another home game.A joke of an organization.

Forget if there's hope. Not by this 1st period.

Hank has been crap most of the year. I'm not saying other issues don't exist but he needs to be much better than this.

Messiah717 said:

Hank has been crap most of the year. I'm not saying other issues don't exist but he needs to be much better than this.

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maybe he needs glasses.....lol

Whether it hurts Lundqvists ego or not, if they want any shot at a playoff spot they need to play Talbot every 3 games. He dosen't have the emotional baggage HL is carrying around this season.

So McIlrath makes one mistake attempting a big hit (what he was called up for) and he's relegated to the bench with under 9 minutes of ice time, way to build his confidence. He also drew a penalty from Dubi and didn't seem nervous, the guy is a better option than Falk. AV's inconsistency with discipline is pathetic. That small, useless, crooked-visored, barely one-dimensional bum Hagelin once again played like garbage but glides around the ice without a care, time to healthy scratch his effortless ass. Would have been nice if that pussy Stralman had taken the body on the first goal but he's been steady. Bottom line of yet another loss was Hank played like crap for whatever reason. The only positive with his play this year is we won't have to worry about him getting tired out playing for Sweden, Olympic backups don't get the minutes.

As I mentioned in another thread that Nash does not seem to be a good leader. He plays too soft and passive at times. Tonight's game proved my point. He was completely ineffective and did not care. The team has been up and down since he got here. You gotta be concerned with trying to build around him.

Dubinsky is not having a great year 31. You live in a dream world. He also gets a lot more ice time than he would here. Not to mention he was a fat slob in NY because he was more concerned about screwing around in the city than playing hockey.

Hags needs someone to call him out in the papers personaly because he is playing like shit!

dumppyattnow said:

Dubinsky is not having a great year 31. You live in a dream world. He also gets a lot more ice time than he would here. Not to mention he was a fat slob in NY because he was more concerned about screwing around in the city than playing hockey.

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he is playing just as well as Stepan.....so right now he would be #1 center on this team

BigDaddyAl1973 said:

he is playing just as well as Stepan.....so right now he would be #1 center on this team

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As well as Stepan? Dubi is on pace for a 60+ pt season, while our #1C, point-per-game stud is pacing barely at 50pts. Derek has been very disappointing this year when during the offseason so many on this board were expecting 70-80pts out of him.

BigDaddyAl1973 said:

Hags needs someone to call him out in the papers personaly because he is playing like shit!

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Agree Al. He skates around the ice like a friggin leprechaun. He blows. I wish he had half the heart zucc has who I was down on due to his size coming into the season but he's won me over and competes all over the ice no matter who he's going up against.

Sorry I have to say I told you so, but I told you so. Warned everyone about the Nash trade. He's great, the final link, he's all we need. Actually, he's Mr. Softie. No fire ever in his belly. Against the caps, broke his stick, puck was in corner. Not only wouldn't use his body to make a check, literally stepped out of the way so a Cap player could take the puck. Last year, we needed 1 win in last 3 games to clinch PO spot. He was invisible. In playoffs, invisible. Expected to be pumped to play his old team, invisible. NYR finally built a team from mostly within and was a Gabby shoulder injury away from making ECF. Team just needed to be tweaked. Sather destroyed it by going for the goal scorer who did nothing but hang and shoot on a loser team, then turned over a lot of the roster. What we have now is a tiny and mostly slow smurf team without much skill that is easy to play against and wimpy, and the few bigger guys we have are soft as putty, including Nash. This team is disgusting. It's back to 2003 all over again. CBJ are now a better team than NYR, and are unquestionably being led by Dubi. They are now us from a few years ago, and we are them. Bash me, insult me, ignore me, so what. Anyone without rose colored glass and being honest knows I speak the truth. Time to start all over again.

Nash is no different than any player on a bad team. Last year Nash was amazing. Especially in 3rd periods. This year the entire team blows. Every player is dragged down. Nash isn't the problem. The problem is this team has 2 top defenseman done forever with injuries. No 3rd and 4th line role players worth crap.

I wonder what is the breaking point to become sellers...I personally am not at that point....but yes in the back of one's head it doesn't help barely making the playoffs year after year...the death of Alex Chernapov is really showing now

BigDaddyAl1973 said:

I wonder what is the breaking point to become sellers...I personally am not at that point....but yes in the back of one's head it doesn't help barely making the playoffs year after year...the death of Alex Chernapov is really showing now

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If there is anything still biting this team today is that miss in the '03 draft.

Brown
Parise
Getzlaf
Kesler
Perry
M. Richards
B. Burns

these were all drafted AFTER Jessiman. and all are top-6 forwards except for Burns who is a good offensive Dman.

hitting and missing on a pick is one thing..you can always go back and say we should have drafted x over y...but this was a special kid who died...there is no debating on whether it was a good pick or not

I'm not saying Nash is the problem. He's a very good offensive player. My point is that they completely changed the essence of the team by getting him, and he is not that type of player. I liken him to Marian Hossa. He's a really good player, but not one the team is built around. Chi is built around Toews and Kane, and he is a top supporting player and all star. I have little doubt if Nash was substituted for Hossa, Chi still wins. After waiting for countless years for NYR to build a team, they finally did. They still had room to get better basically tore it down, went in another direction, and we are left with a disgusting mess. Didn't need the Nash or Gabby trades. Some tweaks to personnel and style while keeping the core together is what I preferred. I saw this disaster coming, and I am so fed up. Not trying to be argumentative or a know it all, just needing to vent.

The constant is the most overrated GM in Rangers history slats Sather who was smart enough to draft Wayne Gretzky, brilliant. The guy who should have been given the GM job interviewed with Sam Rosen during the 2nd period intermission, Sam's old broadcast partner JD. JD goes to punching bag St. Louis and turns them into a challenger now he's working his magic in Columbus while Sather is still drafting small minimally talented forwards.

I disagree about Nash, the guy has averaged a little under a point per game in the regular season as a Ranger and while he only had 5 points in last year's playoffs he constantly drew double teams from Washington and Boston. Gaborik was a great Ranger but he is also injury prone as evidenced by his absence last night, I just don't think he is built to take the physical pounding of the playoffs. Last night Nash was double teamed all night by the BJs and the Rangers couldn't capitalize. How many pucks sat in front of an open goal as Ranger players cruised behind the net?

The killer this year has been Hank, he's 28th in GAA while Talbot is #3 and Hank's 27th in save % while Cam is 4th. Hank seems mentally lost despite having just received the huge contract he wanted, I agree that Cam should get more starts especially when Hank has a stinker like last night. Every team makes mistakes and needs to be bailed out by their goalie once in a while. I don't think the season is over yet but if Hank can't clear his head the Rangers are in trouble. Sather should still be looking to make moves with the free agency situation but he's selling low on virtually every player.

Agree panze I'd love to see JD in control of things for the rangers also. Come on Dolan UD make it happen