What if they went to College?

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  1. iFR3SHi

    iFR3SHi BBW Elite Member

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    What if the following nba players did not come out of High School but went to College for one yearLebron JamesKobe BryantTracy McgradyKevin GarnettAmare StoudemireJR SmithJosh SmithAl HarringtonGerald GreenMartell WebsterAndrew BynumDesagna Diop
     
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    Well Lebron, TMac, Kobe, Garnett, and Amare already have developed as stars in the NBA, pretty quick. So I doubt any of them dont regret not going to college, unless they missed getting an education, but I dont think they care. As for the other guys you listed, it wouldnt have hurt for them to get college experience
     
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    Then, LeBron wouldn't be a CavalierGarnett wouldn't be a TimberwolfT-Mac would not have played with Vince CarterAmare wouldn't be a SunJR Smith would be getting playing in the NBA if he went to collegeJosh Smith wouldn't have won the Dunk ContestAndrew Bynum same reason as JRDesagna Diop wouldn't be a top 5 pick in the draftMartell Webster same reason as JR and BynumAl Harrington would have been an all-star in the NBA
     
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    Kobe would have gone to Duke if he went to college. If he ened up going, he would have teamed up with Brand and I think they would have win a national title.
     
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    Yeah but Kobe would have been a Senior and Elton Brand a freshman. Maybe they wouldn't have won a championship.
     
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    Actually Brand came in the '98 season. So they would have played to years together. If Kobe stayed all 4 yeas.
     
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    Yeah, but the chances of the Lakers picking up Kobe in the 2000 draft would have been next to impossible. [​IMG]
     
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    The Suns would have drafted Jared Jeffries or Chris Wilcox and maybe never would've gotten close to the WCF.
     
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    Amare and Rodney Carney(I looked it up, Carney got his scholarship from Wagner leaving, not Amare) wouldve won Final Four, hense, Carmelo wouldnt have been draft as high and it couldve screwed up the entire 2003 draft, Lebron might be playing for Detriot or Denver.(thats if LeBron entered draft)
     
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    I really cant imagine LeBon in college for 4 years, hed be raping people and they would never forget it.
     
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    How a player ends up becoming due to college or not is basically atrivuted to his attidtude and personality. TMac, Kobe, LeBron; these guys are all hard working dudes who had their eyes set on an MVP trophy. Darius Miles on the other hand, had his eyes set on a big paycheck. In the case of Kevin Garnett or Dwight Howard, these guys have/will been/be fine because of their determination and attitude, so college was not necessary. Guys like Darius on the other hand...
     
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    Well I think Kobe/Tmac/KG/and defiently JO shouldve gone to college atleast one year. None of them did anything their rookie season and they couldve dominated college then make a immediate impact in the NBA. Theres two players who I think had the right to go to NBA from highschool, Dwight Howard and LeBron James...they are the only highschool players to make a impact in a rookie season(exclude the highschool players from '70s...dont know about them). KG, Kobe and Tmac couldve been like Melo and go and dominate the NCAA for one years THEN go to NBA.
     
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    Well, college basketball would be alot more popular today if all of those players played in college. That is why I am so excited and cant wait for this years upcoming college season. Greg Oden, Kevin Durant, and the two guys that played on the same high school team that went to Duke and NC. Those guys are absolute beasts. Also, a couple of players that went to Georgia Tech. Can't remember their names though. The collegiate level would have definitely benefited and so would a few of the players.JR Smith would have gotten time to develope his skill set. He needed to go to college to learn how to play defense and to also get coached a little bit to be turned in to a man. He is way too immature. Josh Smith is about to be a star IMO so I dont think college would have suited him. The same for Kobe, McGrady, Lebron, KG, and Amare. What did college have in store for them? What you can learn at the collegiate level for those guys is really nothing besides a good experience and maybe maturing. Their game was already on the NBA level. College wold have just been a waste of time.For guys like Webster, JR Smith, Gerald, Diop, and Bynum, college would have been great. They would have matured, gotten playing time, gotten better, and it would have only taken one season. Too many young players have their mindset focued on money and fame. That is why I think it will be interesting to see how long these incoming freshman to college will stay at college. Im hoping that their eyes dont get set on the lottery or first round selection money guarantee and stick around for college. Make things more interesting. The only acception I have to that is Greg Oden. He is NBA ready IMO.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ballerman2112 @ Oct 12 2006, 10:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Well, college basketball would be alot more popular today if all of those players played in college. That is why I am so excited and cant wait for this years upcoming college season. Greg Oden, Kevin Durant, and the two guys that played on the same high school team that went to Duke and NC. Those guys are absolute beasts. Also, a couple of players that went to Georgia Tech. Can't remember their names though. The collegiate level would have definitely benefited and so would a few of the players.</div>One is Thadeuss Young....saw him in a highschool game live and hes incredible....kindve like a mixture between Scottie Pippen and Tmac.btw, alotve highschool players jump to NBA for financial reasons...such as Sebastion Telfair(and some college players do also like Shawne Williams)
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (austingriz76 @ Oct 12 2006, 11:49 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Well I think Kobe/Tmac/KG/and defiently JO shouldve gone to college atleast one year. None of them did anything their rookie season and they couldve dominated college then make a immediate impact in the NBA. Theres two players who I think had the right to go to NBA from highschool, Dwight Howard and LeBron James...they are the only highschool players to make a impact in a rookie season(exclude the highschool players from '70s...dont know about them). KG, Kobe and Tmac couldve been like Melo and go and dominate the NCAA for one years THEN go to NBA.</div>Hmmm... I really see where you are coming from here. Although, NBA Players today who come in straight from college have to adjust to the NBA as well. It's not like if TMac, Kobe, or KG went to college they'd learn a few things and averaged 15 PPG in their NBA debut. Because of their youth and clear desire, I think that the quick transition to the NBA was a learning experience comparable to that of what they would have recieved in college
     
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    But physicaly and mentaly would been better(sorry for bad grammar). Theres certain situations these players had never been in but wouldve if they went to college. College is also the one place where most players in all sports build strength and stamina for the pros. If you didnt notice..the players who I mentioned were really ready for NBA(Lebron and Howard) were both physicaly built to NBA standards, most highschool players dont come like that. Thats why they dont succeed in rookie season, or in some players cases, many seasons. College does so much for you mentaly and physically. Therefore, when you enter the NBA from college, you have more strength than you did in highschool and better toned skills.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (austingriz76 @ Oct 13 2006, 12:00 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>But physicaly and mentaly would been better(sorry for bad grammar). Theres certain situations these players had never been in but wouldve if they went to college. College is also the one place where most players in all sports build strength and stamina for the pros. If you didnt notice..the players who I mentioned were really ready for NBA(Lebron and Howard) were both physicaly built to NBA standards, most highschool players dont come like that. Thats why they dont succeed in rookie season, or in some players cases, many seasons. College does so much for you mentaly and physically. Therefore, when you enter the NBA from college, you have more strength than you did in highschool and better toned skills.</div>You make a great point, and I do agree that benifit would be certain. However, my main point was that for those "A Class" players simply didn't NEED college for success. Guys like Ebi, Miles, Johnathan Bender on the other hand... [​IMG]
     
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    I think people underrate Darius Miles..sure hes a horrible shooter with a worse attitude....but he HAD the talent to make the jump like Kobe and KG....just never listened. Dude averaged 15ppg with no kindve shot, imagine if he did listen and develope a shot...he would be another Kobe.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (austingriz76 @ Oct 13 2006, 12:05 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I think people underrate Darius Miles..sure hes a horrible shooter with a worse attitude....but he HAD the talent to make the jump like Kobe and KG....just never listened. Dude averaged 15ppg with no kindve shot, imagine if he did listen and develope a shot...he would be another Kobe.</div>Saying "If Darius Miles had a jumpshot he would be another Kobe" is like saying... "If KMartAce could rap, he be the next Eminem"Unfortunately, neither of these statements are true. (More unfortunate for the latter :thumbdn1:)
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (austingriz76 @ Oct 12 2006, 10:53 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>One is Thadeuss Young....saw him in a highschool game live and hes incredible....kindve like a mixture between Scottie Pippen and Tmac.btw, alotve highschool players jump to NBA for financial reasons...such as Sebastion Telfair(and some college players do also like Shawne Williams)</div>Yeah thats him. I remember seeing him play and he was very impressive.As for Bassy's situation....even though their family was very poor, they still live in the same are. They refuse to move from their house for some reason. At least that is what I heard.
     

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