Re: Steve Kerr's Atlantic Prediction <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (austingriz76 @ Oct 13 2006, 12:50 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>History shows he always drafts good players. Thats why I have some faith in Balkman.</div>History also shows that's about the only thing the guy does right :yahoo:
Re: Steve Kerr's Atlantic Prediction on the topic of raps defense, I noticed chris bosh's defense has much improved, as well as a very tough defensive mentality this seasont thanks to sam mitchell & co.<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (austingriz76 @ Oct 13 2006, 12:57 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Ive been looking for that...only found the avatar though..great!! BTW, yall see Kirks reverse? :HAHAHA:</div>dude I love your avy
Re: Steve Kerr's Atlantic Prediction Dude, hasn't Sam Mitchell been there for like, three seasons? If when the team was playing slow it played bad defense, what makes you think that will improve now that they are, and I quote,"Dedicated to playing up-tempo basketball"?
Re: Steve Kerr's Atlantic Prediction <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (KMartAce @ Oct 13 2006, 12:14 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>History also shows that's about the only thing the guy does right :yahoo:</div>As far as coaching goes, history shows that Isaih Thomas was a pretty good coach in this league. His gm career in New York has not been the greatest, but he when he coached he was a good coach in this league.
Re: Steve Kerr's Atlantic Prediction I like Steve Kerr but he's completely off here. Who honestly cares about international success? Half these international stars come and in and can't make a rotation. I don't care what Jorge Garbajosa or Anthony Parker did in Europe, I want to see them do something here. Like I've said a 100 times I don't like the Raptors at all this season. Morris Peterson is the only above average defender that will start. T.J. Ford doesn't play defense and gets abused by bigger guards, Anthony Parker is an unknown and Bosh/Nesterovic are nothing to be scared about inside...and they are a poorly coached bunch. I think the Knicks and Celtics will win more games than people think. 1. New Jersey 2. New York 3. Boston 4. Philadelphia 5. Toronto
Re: Steve Kerr's Atlantic Prediction <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BrewCityBuck @ Oct 15 2006, 08:39 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I like Steve Kerr but he's completely off here. Who honestly cares about international success? Half these international stars come and in and can't make a rotation. I don't care what Jorge Garbajosa or Anthony Parker did in Europe, I want to see them do something here. Like I've said a 100 times I don't like the Raptors at all this season. Morris Peterson is the only above average defender that will start. T.J. Ford doesn't play defense and gets abused by bigger guards, Anthony Parker is an unknown and Bosh/Nesterovic are nothing to be scared about inside...and they are a poorly coached bunch. I think the Knicks and Celtics will win more games than people think. 1. New Jersey 2. New York 3. Boston 4. Philadelphia 5. Toronto</div>Look BCB I dont care whut u say, and I have grown to respect your opinion, but Knicks 2nd? r u kidding? and can u tell whut defense Phili and Boston has? if anything there more like the raptors than u think. and I havent seen Pierce play decent defense for a while now, and C Webb isnt the only defensive presence at Phili, and please tell me whut offense or defense for that manner New York has?I dont see toronto second necasarilly (excuse spelling im tired) but last and behind New York? Give me a break here
Re: Steve Kerr's Atlantic Prediction <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (KMartAce @ Oct 13 2006, 12:55 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Something being overlooked in Toronto is this: The Raptors have not addressed any defensive issues. They can score 100 PPG, but I still think they'll have trouble stopping opposing players down the stretch. If they don't blow teams out early, expect tons of late game losses</div>No defensive issues? WTF?Jorge Garbajosa, Fred Jones, Anthony Parker, and Rasho are all good defensive players. Our defense will be much improved.<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ballerman2112 @ Oct 13 2006, 01:06 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I honestly think that if the Celtics stay healthy this season, they will get 2nd in the Atlantic. Their guard set is absolutley overpowering in the sense that they have so much depth. At the pg spot alone, they have Rondo, Bassy, and Delonte. Any one of those players is capable of that starting spot IMO. They have Wally at the 2 guard spot(who if healthy can get 15 plus a night easy for the celtics) and the backup will most likely be Delonte once again. They have a top 10-15 player in the league in Pierce. Good rebounder, scorer, and leader. There isnt a whole lot of time where he will be off the court so his backup job is nearly irrelevant. And at the PF spot, they have Jefferson and Gomes who both show great promise. Gomes showed that he was a top 10 rookie last season putting up great games and stats in the 2nd part of the season when he got minutes. Good hustle player who gets a ton of offensive rebounds. Good post moves for an undersized PF as well. Jefferson's footwork is amazing and he got in shape over this summer as well. I am very eager to see how he does. And at the center spot, you have two defensive minded players in Perkins and Ratliff. Ratliff can still be a great shot blocker if he stays healthy and Perkins had a few games last year were he got 5 blocks in a game. Also, the celtics backup squad is so young and their defense is starting to pick up. The Raps have alot of young talent as well, I will give them that. I just dont think that their team has enough defensive weapons to do it. Mo Pete is an average defender and Rasho can get a decent amount of blocked shots, but thats about it. Bosh isn't strong and can get taken advantage of by alot of good PF's. TJ Ford is a decent defender but is too small and that will hurt him. Fred Jones is a decent defender but his lack of size will hurt him. I just see the Celtics as having more weapons and can play both sides of the ball better.</div>LMAO man. :HAHAHA: :HAHAHA: :HAHAHA: TJ is the worst defender on our team.You forgot Anthony Parker. Defense is his specialty. Thats why he's going to start. He's the best defender on our team.
Re: Steve Kerr's Atlantic Prediction <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CB4AllStar @ Oct 15 2006, 09:11 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>No defensive issues? WTF?Jorge Garbajosa, Fred Jones, Anthony Parker, and Rasho are all good defensive players. Our defense will be much improved.</div>Fred Jones can't guard any decent sized 2 guard, garbajosa isn't a defender at all, parker is mediocre at best on defense.
Re: Steve Kerr's Atlantic Prediction <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (nba dogmatist @ Oct 13 2006, 12:57 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>THANK YOU. I have been saying the same exact thing. Anthony Parker is not a lockdown defender cb4, I don't care what you say. They are still pourous and weak defensively.</div>Anthony Parker is starting over Jones for a reason. He is a very good defender, and Sam Mitchell said that he would anchor our defense. He's the best defender on our team. Youve never seen him play, so how the F*ck would you know?
Re: Steve Kerr's Atlantic Prediction <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (RaptorFan#1 @ Oct 15 2006, 10:07 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Look BCB I dont care whut u say, and I have grown to respect your opinion, but Knicks 2nd? r u kidding? and can u tell whut defense Phili and Boston has? if anything there more like the raptors than u think. and I havent seen Pierce play decent defense for a while now, and C Webb isnt the only defensive presence at Phili, and please tell me whut offense or defense for that manner New York has?I dont see toronto second necasarilly (excuse spelling im tired) but last and behind New York? Give me a break here</div>As far as offensive talent throughout the team, New York has more than anyone else in this division. They was just held down last year by a system that wasn't good for their players, or team. This year with a new system that is more free flowing, and a team that is going to play hard and enjoy themselves you will see a better team. I see the Raptors finishing behind New York this season.
Re: Steve Kerr's Atlantic Prediction <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (nba dogmatist @ Oct 15 2006, 11:13 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Fred Jones can't guard any decent sized 2 guard, garbajosa isn't a defender at all, parker is mediocre at best on defense.</div>Fred Jones may be undersized, but he is a scrappy defender. He's a good defensive player. Garbajosa is there for defense. He is a good defender.Parker mediocre at best? Youre so f*cking ignorant. Parker is there for defense. He's the best defender on our team. How would you know?
Re: Steve Kerr's Atlantic Prediction <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (RaptorFan#1 @ Oct 15 2006, 09:07 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Look BCB I dont care whut u say, and I have grown to respect your opinion, but Knicks 2nd? r u kidding? and can u tell whut defense Phili and Boston has? if anything there more like the raptors than u think. and I havent seen Pierce play decent defense for a while now, and C Webb isnt the only defensive presence at Phili, and please tell me whut offense or defense for that manner New York has?I dont see toronto second necasarilly (excuse spelling im tired) but last and behind New York? Give me a break here</div>what defense does boston have? Try Theo Ratliff, Kendrick Perkins, Tony Allen, Rajon Rondo, Delonte West. Rajon Rondo is already a better defender than anyone on the raps. And Pierce isn't bad at defense, he's decent.just so you know, C Webb is an absolutely horrible, horrible defender. Iguodala is a much better defender, and Dalembert is a good shotblocker.
Re: Steve Kerr's Atlantic Prediction <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (RaptorFan#1 @ Oct 15 2006, 09:07 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Look BCB I dont care whut u say, and I have grown to respect your opinion, but Knicks 2nd? r u kidding? and can u tell whut defense Phili and Boston has? if anything there more like the raptors than u think. and I havent seen Pierce play decent defense for a while now, and C Webb isnt the only defensive presence at Phili, and please tell me whut offense or defense for that manner New York has?I dont see toronto second necasarilly (excuse spelling im tired) but last and behind New York? Give me a break here</div> Thats just it, you can't just go along with everything thats said, everyone in the NBA media wants you to believe the Knicks will be one of the worst teams in the league again. Those same people before last season thought the Knicks would be a big playoff threat. All I'm saying is, keep an open mind. They can easily turn things around. The team has ballhogs and problems but this division is terrible and the Knicks are definitely going to win more games this season. They have the talent, depth and motivation to turn it around and I expect them to be very competitive. I just think the Celtics are more talented, sure they aren't a defensive juggernaut but I think the young talent will take a step up. It all depends on Al Jefferson's development in my opinion. Both Toronto and Boston have one big star and a bunch of other guys that will give you an effort, I just like Boston's supporting cast better as well as coaching. I think you and the 76ers are going to be fighting for the bottom, you have to remember that this division is going to be very close outside of New Jersey, it might be a couple games between the bottom couple teams, it's not that big of a deal.
Re: Steve Kerr's Atlantic Prediction <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BrewCityBuck @ Oct 15 2006, 09:39 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I like Steve Kerr but he's completely off here. Who honestly cares about international success? Half these international stars come and in and can't make a rotation. I don't care what Jorge Garbajosa or Anthony Parker did in Europe, I want to see them do something here. Like I've said a 100 times I don't like the Raptors at all this season. Morris Peterson is the only above average defender that will start. T.J. Ford doesn't play defense and gets abused by bigger guards, Anthony Parker is an unknown and Bosh/Nesterovic are nothing to be scared about inside...and they are a poorly coached bunch. I think the Knicks and Celtics will win more games than people think. 1. New Jersey 2. New York 3. Boston 4. Philadelphia 5. Toronto</div>Anthony Parker is also an above average defender, and Fred Jones, Garba, and Rasho are solid defenders. Bosh isnt anything to be scared about? What the hell? He's one of the best PF's in the game, and he is only 22.The Knicks 2nd? Have you taken your medicine today?BTW to all, this doesn't really mean anything I guess, but we're 3-0 in pre-season play. We're going to surprise alot of you guys.
Re: Steve Kerr's Atlantic Prediction <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CB4AllStar @ Oct 15 2006, 09:15 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Fred Jones may be undersized, but he is a scrappy defender. He's a good defensive player. Garbajosa is there for defense. He is a good defender.Parker mediocre at best? Youre so f*cking ignorant. Parker is there for defense. He's the best defender on our team. How would you know?</div>How would I know? I would know just as much about this as you would. I just don't have a blindfold on. Just because he's there for defense doesn't mean he's an excellent defender. He was run out of teh nba for a reason, you know. you're putting him on a pedestal that he doesn't deserve.
Re: Steve Kerr's Atlantic Prediction <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CB4AllStar @ Oct 15 2006, 09:18 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Anthony Parker is also an above average defender, and Fred Jones, Garba, and Rasho are solid defenders. Bosh isnt anything to be scared about? What the hell? He's one of the best PF's in the game, and he is only 22.The Knicks 2nd? Have you taken your medicine today?BTW to all, this doesn't really mean anything I guess, but we're 3-0 in pre-season play. We're going to surprise alot of you guys.</div> Anthony Parker is untested in the NBA on defense, Jorge Garbajosa is untested as well and again, Rasho Nesterovic is not a good defensive player. I meant Bosh on the defensive end, obviously.
Re: Steve Kerr's Atlantic Prediction <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (nba dogmatist @ Oct 15 2006, 11:19 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>How would I know? I would know just as much about this as you would. I just don't have a blindfold on. Just because he's there for defense doesn't mean he's an excellent defender. He was run out of teh nba for a reason, you know. you're putting him on a pedestal that he doesn't deserve.</div>He is an excellent defender. Do you want me to post in article where Coach Mitchell says that he is the best defender on our team? You dont know sh*t about the Raptors, so dont assume anything.
Re: Steve Kerr's Atlantic Prediction <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CB4AllStar @ Oct 15 2006, 09:18 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Anthony Parker is also an above average defender, and Fred Jones, Garba, and Rasho are solid defenders. Bosh isnt anything to be scared about? What the hell? He's one of the best PF's in the game, and he is only 22.The Knicks 2nd? Have you taken your medicine today?BTW to all, this doesn't really mean anything I guess, but we're 3-0 in pre-season play. We're going to surprise alot of you guys.</div>he said bosh was nothing to be scared about UNDERNEATH. learn to read. that means defensively. and bosh is a horrible shotblocker.
Re: Steve Kerr's Atlantic Prediction <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (nba dogmatist @ Oct 15 2006, 09:19 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>How would I know? I would know just as much about this as you would. I just don't have a blindfold on. Just because he's there for defense doesn't mean he's an excellent defender. He was run out of teh nba for a reason, you know. you're putting him on a pedestal that he doesn't deserve.</div> For the last 6 years Parkers been guarding European goons, I agree Dogma.
Re: Steve Kerr's Atlantic Prediction <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BrewCityBuck @ Oct 15 2006, 11:20 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Anthony Parker is untested in the NBA on defense, Jorge Garbajosa is untested as well and again, Rasho Nesterovic is not a good defensive player. I meant Bosh on the defensive end, obviously.</div>Bosh has actually improved his defense, whether you want to believe that or not...He said in an article that defense is the #1 thing he wants to improve. Anthony Parker is the best defender on our team. We've already seen in pre-season that both of those guys can defend..<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BrewCityBuck @ Oct 15 2006, 11:21 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>For the last 6 years Parkers been guarding European goons, I agree Dogma.</div>Yeah, and in training camp do you think he was guarding Kris Humphries all the time? No. Obviously Sam Mitchell has seen that he can play defense.
