<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Garnett Compares New Whining Policy To Castro13th October, 2006 - 12:22 pmSan Francisco Chronicle - Kevin Garnett, one of the NBA's elder statesman and by all accounts one of the league's finest gentlemen, is not a fan of the new policy regarding complaints to the referees."The people that get the techs are emotional people. Do we cross the line sometimes? We walk it. ... If you want to fine the individual person, that's what it is," Kevin Garnett said after Wednesday's game."To the fact that you can't really speak to the refs, the refs don't want to hear it. That's almost like Communism. That's like Castro." [READ]</div> Kevin Garnett should have been a historian. A handfull of players are bitching about the new rule, KG is just crazy over it.
I'm not really seeing the policy so far in preaseason games. I mean Howard was all over a ref last night for getting a tech(hanging on the rim). But no tosses or fines as of yet. But I don't get what's wrong with the new policy, refs make a call and shouldn't be berated by a player for it. I mean most of the time, the player's whining does nothing, no refs change a call because a player goes apeshit about it. Also, brings back a moment I believe in a different league that had a player punch a ref out after a call he disliked. On Garnett's words, this is a guy who called himself the 'Black Angel.'
Kevin Garnett again showcases the idiocy of the American athlete. So being unable to go up to a ref and act like a temper-tamtrum, whining 4 year-old is communist?Errrr..No :brickwall:
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Rok @ Oct 14 2006, 04:21 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>But I don't get what's wrong with the new policy, refs make a call and shouldn't be berated by a player for it. I mean most of the time, the player's whining does nothing, no refs change a call because a player goes apeshit about it.</div>I agree, Players shouldn't be able to question a refs call. The refs have a hard enough job without putting up with millionaire babies whinning about calls.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (clangus @ Oct 13 2006, 08:13 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I agree, Players shouldn't be able to question a refs call. The refs have a hard enough job without putting up with millionaire babies whinning about calls.</div>Agreed. Basketball might be the hardest game to ref in the world, and once you've actually done it, you appreciate all these guys go through more
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Rok @ Oct 13 2006, 04:21 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>But no tosses or fines as of yet.</div>Mark Blount got 2 technicals and was ejected, and another Wovles player or two got T'd up. They are cracking down. But I sort of agree with KG, they got too crazy with this. Now, you can't even really question a call without saying "Um.. excuse me sir, I was just kindly wondering why you made that call. No pressure, sir!" I mean come on.
I don't like the new rules to an extent... I mean, yes, certain players go crazy over calls at times, but think about it, wouldn't your emotions get the best of you in a tight game down the stretch? If somebody gets tossed because of that, that is completely retarded. Also, what about those players that don't really complain, but rather just say something along the lines of "What did I do wrong that it was a foul, and what should I do next time so it isn't a foul?"The new rules really didn't need to be implemented, in my opinion. Referees should have the common sense to know when a player is going overboard, and then take the appropriate action (whether it be a technical, ejection, etc.), and the league would just fine the player accordingly.
^I was just basically speaking of Howard and the Kings/Mavs game, I read fines would be made out if a ref decides against a tech in a game. Instead just giving a fine afterwards. New policy is strict but I think understandable. <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>"Um.. excuse me sir, I was just kindly wondering why you made that call. No pressure, sir!" I mean come on.</div> For some reason if an NBA player said that after a call he disagreed with, I would laugh my ass off. But if that's how the policy is going to be, such as a player calmly asking a official about a call. That does give players reason to be mad about it.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BigMo763 @ Oct 13 2006, 11:10 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I don't like the new rules to an extent... I mean, yes, certain players go crazy over calls at times, but think about it, wouldn't your emotions get the best of you in a tight game down the stretch? If somebody gets tossed because of that, that is completely retarded. Also, what about those players that don't really complain, but rather just say something along the lines of "What did I do wrong that it was a foul, and what should I do next time so it isn't a foul?"The new rules really didn't need to be implemented, in my opinion. Referees should have the common sense to know when a player is going overboard, and then take the appropriate action (whether it be a technical, ejection, etc.), and the league would just fine the player accordingly.</div>The ruledoesn't stop players froms simply asking the referee about something. Rather, they stop players from going overboard. We've all seen the more hardcore players get called for a foul, run up to the referee and being flinging his arms around like a child. That's what's being disallowed.In term's of late game reaction, the league will make sure marquee players are not tossed when the game matters. I think this new rule is more a tactic to scare players from going beserk than one actually implemented to completely eradicate all form of questioning possible
I think the refs are just going to be cutting down on the temper tantrums that some players throw. I agree with KG and I don't think the NBA is going to be that hardcore on the rule. Debating a ref or talking to him is just fine, but throwing a crazy hissy-fit every time you get called for a foul is uncalled for.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Renton @ Oct 13 2006, 04:20 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I have another rule for the NBA:If KG talks, everybody should listen.</div>Power to the People Renton! Refs get way too much respect in the NBA. The players know what play they did or didn't do....even refs get mixed up sometimes
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (RaptorFan#1 @ Oct 14 2006, 12:28 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Power to the People Renton! Refs get way too much respect in the NBA. The players know what play they did or didn't do....even refs get mixed up sometimes</div> Too much respect? What are you talking about? Of course ref's mess things up, it happens. Players know what play they did or didn't do...what does that mean?
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>The players know what play they did or didn't do....even refs get mixed up sometimes</div> Are you insisting players have better judgment in calls? If so, that's ridiculous, players always argue their way despite it being the right call most of the time.
The major problem is the atttitude of infallibility. Without some sort of accountability for the refs and making THEM better at what they do this sort of crackdown is a bit extreme.
I think its natural for some people to just react like that after a bad call.. but I don't think theres any point of whining because they never change it anyways... maybe there needs to be a "challenge" like in football..
I really don't see how displays of emotion like slamming the ball in your hand or being upset at a call (so long as it's not directed towards the ref) are bad. If a player's upset but he walks away and slams the ball in his hand why are you going to T him up?
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (KMartAce @ Oct 13 2006, 05:16 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Kevin Garnett again showcases the idiocy of the American athlete. So being unable to go up to a ref and act like a temper-tamtrum, whining 4 year-old is communist?Errrr..No :brickwall:</div><span style="font-family:Book Antiqua">Yeah, I was wondering the same thing.However, KG still says things that are good to know. You know what I mean? His opinion actually matters.</span>
garnett is THAT dude! everyone should listen to him, I dont get why refs are so quick with the whistle though, they should just no say anything to the players and let them just talk. whos it hurting if you say nothing back?
