Leonard's Breakout Game?

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  1. craigehlo

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    The decision to go with Meyers over TRob simply isn't working. TRob made some poor decisions, but he fought in the paint and was quick off his feet for offensive boards. Meyers is taller, but his energy isn't anywhere near Robinson.

    It's a failed experiment that Stotts needs to own and reverse.
     
  2. Wizard Mentor

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    No need to repeat, I got it the first time. You agree with me that Leonard hasn't broken out.

    As for your second comment I think you are totally ignoring the objection, let me explain it to you:
    Let's consider a scale of 1 to 10, 1 being a very small mistake and 10 being a very large mistake.

    I don't think anyone's objecting to 1s, 2s, or 3s here. Leonard is making 8s, 9s, and even 10s consistently, which is completely unacceptable. These are mistakes which would get him yanked in a HIGH SCHOOL game.

    Saying Mo Williams is also making boneheaded mistakes isn't very comforting.

     
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    Exactly.

     
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    Robinson was drafted a lot higher than Leonard and has more potential. Advantage: Robinson.

    Both are gradually addressing their deficiencies at about the same rate. Advantage: Tie.

    But Leonard has twice as deep of a pit to climb out of, since Robinson has one improvement needed (IQ). Leonard has two (toughness and IQ). Advantage: Robinson.
     
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    Best observation on the topic I've read. Well put jlprk!
     
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    And a rep for you!
     
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    ...is the Leonard experiment over yet? :dunno: I much prefer T-Rob's tenacity and hustle!
     
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    Yeesh. Get a room.
     
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    And I just repped you too, sweetie!
     
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    Stop with your fucking repping!!!! It holds no value!
     
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    Blazers have a 3-4 record with Meyers Leonard in the rotation.
     
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    I can't stand Leonar_, but most of that is due to us having a really easy schedule early on
     
  13. Boob-No-More

    Boob-No-More Why you no hire big man coach?

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    Define "in the rotation". The team is 3-2 in the games since Leonard was inserted back into the rotation and also 3-2 in games he's played more than 6 minutes. Blaming a loss on a guy who played less than 5 minutes seems like a bit of a stretch (so would be giving him credit for a win in such limited minutes).

    BNM
     
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    If we had picked Meyers in the second round instead of with a lottery pick, I don't think MM would be anywhere near as hard on him.

    Just my opinion.
     
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    Meyers was in the rotation for one game when Freeland was injured and we lost to Houston. Meyers took TRob's spot in the rotation beginning with the Minnesota game on 12/18 which is the last 6 games we've played. The total record in those 7 games is 3-4.

    When Meyers is not at all part of the 9 man rotation the team is 22-3.
     
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    I feel like our offensive rebounding has disappeared without TRob.
     
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    Meyers played his most minutes of the year against Houston because Freeland was out and Lopez was in early foul trouble. Yeah, I'll concede he lost that match-up with Dwight Howard. Leonard was -7 in 14:11 going head to head with Dwight Howard.

    In the Minnesota game, Thomas Robinson played 4:15 and was -14. Leonard played 5:21 and was +6 (the only bench player with a positive +/-). Are we really blaming the loss on Meyers Leonard being in the rotation? In the five games Leonard played and Robinson didn't, the Blazers are 3-2, with wins over NOP, LAC and OKC and last second losses (when Leonard wasn't even in the game) to MIA and NOP.

    BNM
     
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    Nice game by Leonard tonight.
     
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    I think that is more in comparison to his previous play rather than comparison to a quality backup center. He set expectations so low, he doesn't have to do a lot to have a good game. Just not sold on any part of his game...
     
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    Then you never will be. He's the best rebounder on the team according to per/36 and Reb%.

    Are you sold on his FT shooting and FG%? How about his PER/USG ratio?
     

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