The one position we truly need

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  1. e_blazer

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    Mo Williams is averaging 4.9 APG. By way of comparison, the Spurs get 1.5 APG from Patty Mills, the Thunder get 3.7 APG from Reggie Jackson, and the Pacers get 1.9 APG from CJ Watson. Norris Cole brings 3.2 APG to the Heat. I'd say Mo's distributing the ball better than backup PGs on other contending teams. When you consider that Batum contributes 5.3 APG, the Blazers have way more distributors than their competition. Mo can get off the rails on offense at times, but I think that he's doing a pretty fair job overall. Oh, and BTW, if you're looking for a pure distributor at the PG spot, Earl Watson still does that pretty well.
     
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    Patty Mills plays 16.7 mpg
    Reggie Jackson plays 25 mpg but he's currently their starter.
    CJ Watson plays 19 mpg
    Mo plays 24 mpg

    Mo also averages 2.2 turnovers per game
    Patty averages 0.7 turnovers
    CJ Watson averages 0.9 turnovers
    Reggie Jackson averages 2 turnovers
     
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    I thought the comment was that the Blazers needed a pure distributor. My point is that the Blazers have plenty of play-makers. Mo makes more turnovers than I'd like and I find myself yelling at the TV a lot when he's in there, but lack of ball distribution isn't an issue.
     
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    Mo's assist% is 29.4, far higher than any of the other backup PG's on elite teams (Jackson is second at 23.9). Mo's A/TO ratio of 2.26 is also the best of them (Mills' 2.13 is second). Also, Mo's usage rate as compared to his assist rate is by far the lowest of the bunch (20.5 as compared to the 29.4 assist rate--Cole is the only other one with a usage rate that is lower than his assist rate).

    Seems like the stats suggest that Mo is the best distributor among backup PG's on elite teams.
     
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    I'm going to throw my hat in the ring here and say we don't need anybody...we need experience for the players we have that have not been Blazers for long or played in Stotts system for long. We are headed in the right direction which is team first. If we look at our success this season, the only weakness is defense in the paint and for that, we might want to look at an elite defensive coordinator on the bench but this roster as is can contend...Barton put up 10 pts in about 6 minutes the other night. We have players to fill holes or shore up the rotations when someone is off the mark. I say stand pat and watch what our bench can actually do when they are on the court long enough to break a sweat. The worst player on our bench is a valuable NBA player...this is not LAST season folks!
     
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    If Mo continues to work within the offense instead of going it alone, and CJ is able to contribute as well, and our bench front court guys continue to improve, and Wright finds his shot, I agree, we don't need to make any moves. I know that's a lot of ifs, but all of them are reasonable IMO, and I expect all of them to occur in time for the playoffs. It's good we have a long season to get a few issues ironed out.
     
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    If Mo gets aggressive to score, he's a chucker but then the same people say our bench doesn't score enough. Mo has to score when he comes into the game. Stotts has already called Mo the best backup PG in the league. We should stop bitching about him.


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    I don't now why you need me to answer that question. We could come up with several possibilities but I bet you can too.
     
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    I say this in sound mind and body:

    I want Sergio back. He is MUCH better. When we had him his D and his Outside shot was lacking.

    His outside shot has vastly improved and his D isn't any worse than Mo's.
     
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    I would take most of our backup PGs back. Patty, Sergio, Jack to name a few.
     
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    Tayshaun Prince?
     
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    I'm glad Olshey is the GM and not you.
     
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    Me 2 actually but it is funny as I have said the same about you in my head. Was nice enough not to put it in print (on this forum) yet.
     
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    People have been bashing Mo, and people have been defending Mo. I'm sure that either side can find ammunition in this little exercise.

    I did a search of players since 1990 (arbitrary, you can change it to whenever you want, but it's about the limit of my sustained knowledge league-wide) who have done the following to compare to Mo.

    1. Less than 27 mpg (Mo's at 24+, but I wanted to limit it to 6th-men types who only occasionally started, but played a lot)
    2. Less than 41% shooting (Mo's at 40.6%) on
    3. More than 9.0 shots per game
    4. More than 3 apg (limiting it to guards/forward)

    The list:
    2010-11 Gil Arenas coming off of knee surgery
    2011-12 JJ Barea (1st disaster year in MIN)
    1989-90 Rookie Year Mookie Blaylock (known for his D)
    2005-06 Earl Boykins
    2010-11 Aaron Brooks (after which he went to China for a year)
    This year's Vince Carter
    1990-91 Kevin Edwards for MIA
    2001-02 Retiring Tim Hardaway
    1991-92 Jerry Reynolds (ORL)--you got me. No recollection whatsoever. It says this was the last year before he went to the USBL, though.
    1995-96 Trevor Ruffin (PHI) known for D.
    **The only two time winner, Lou Williams from PHI, for 2010-11 and this year**

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