Can we get Boozer or Bynum?

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  1. Natebishop3

    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    I understand the principle, but are we never making another mid-season acquisition again because of one year that we signed Rod Strickland?

    I'd also like to point out that the team that brought in Rod was a tad bit more deep than our current roster.
     
  2. Draco

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    I don't think Chicago would be very interested in Lopez. He is not a big name centerpiece to a deal. He has been amazing here but I don't think his trade value has increase a ton from less than a half season of play here. Most teams would view him as a solid big but not an above average starter. It makes far more sense to keep him on our team.

    Now if Chicago is thinking of trading Noah they would want picks and youth in return. We could send them TRob, Meyers, CJ, Crabbe and our 2018 and 2020 first round picks both completely unprotected. I'd probably try to throw in Claver for Dunleavy too. That would let us retain our starting lineup but have Mo Williams and Joakim Noah off the bench. Eventually Noah may push Lopez to more of a 28min role off the bench backing up both bigs. All three of those bigs would get extensive playing time though.

    That could be a title team this season so I think you have to strongly consider it. How many years are we going to have the chance we have right now of all these starters playing well and healthy? We saw with Oden and Roy how fast those dreams can fall apart so I'd definitely consider doing it. The picks could really bite us in the ass but that is the type of price we'd have to pay to get Chicago to consider such a deal.
     
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    Sounds like Hinrich could be next to go as Boozer may have to wait.

    http://www.usatoday.com/story/sport...-chicago-bulls-golden-state-warriors/4359053/

    RENO, Nev. – When news broke late Monday night that the Chicago Bulls had broken up their championship-contending core by trading Luol Deng to the Cleveland Cavaliers, the proverbial blood was in the water almost immediately.

    Rival executives had been waiting and wondering whether the Bulls would have to go this route, to opt for Plan B because of Derrick Rose's second season-ending injury by finally succumbing to the league's collective bargaining agreement by way of a money-saving deal. And so they did, taking on Andrew Bynum's contract for the right to waive him and sneak under the luxury tax that is so much more punitive than it has been in the past. The Bulls landed three draft picks in the trade as well (a first and two seconds) but the strong message had been sent that the Bulls' shop may finally be open for business.

    Bulls fans, players and most certainly coach Tom Thibodeau may be in mourning today, as Deng was a fan favorite and this is as tough as NBA decisions come. But this is welcome news for everyone else around the league.

    So, what's next? We shall see.

    While forward Carlos Boozer could be waived via the league's amnesty clause during the offseason as yet another way to clear the Bulls' books, it appears point guard Kirk Hinrich will be drawing the most immediate interest when it comes to the Bulls' possible next move. According to a person with knowledge of the situation, the Golden State Warriors are among teams that had been showing serious interest in Hinrich long before the Deng trade. The person spoke to USA TODAY Sports on the condition of anonymity because trade talks are typically private.

    Hinrich, the 33-year-old who is making approximately $4 million in the final season of his contract, is averaging 7.8 points, 4.7 assists and 30.7 minutes per game but shooting at a career-low rate from the field (34%) and three-point range (28.6%). In the wake of the Deng trade, the natural question being asked by opposing teams is whether the Bulls will go into full-tank mode as a way to improve their draft standing and how that might impact the trade possibilities.

    Even with the Warriors' current nine-game winning streak, they remain on the lookout for a point guard to play behind Stephen Curry. While small forward Andre Iguodala spends ample time as a playmaking point-forward and veteran Toney Douglas provides spot minutes, this is the void that was created when Jarrett Jack left for Cleveland as a free agent last July. Hinrich is certainly not the only possible solution on the Warriors' radar, as they remain in the mix for Denver point guard Andre Miller as well.

    Miller was suspended recently and excused from the team indefinitely after his verbal altercation with coach Brian Shaw on Wednesday, and the Nuggets – according to several executives here at the D-League showcase – have been telling teams that they expect to trade him this week. The Sacramento Kings are also known to be bidding on Miller. Yahoo! Sports first reported on the Nuggets' newfound urgency to trade Miller.

    As for the Bulls, this is the new way of their world. Let the bidding wars for almost anyone on their retooled roster begin.
     
  4. magnifier661

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    I would do that in a heart beat. It's a "win now" mold, but if we get a ring or two out of it, it's worth it to me. This gives us a 3-5 year window. A window that will keep Aldridge.
     
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    No that's not the issue. The issue is Lopez has already proven that he works really well as our starting center. Trading him and CJ could be a disaster, IMO. If we weren't contending and being a lower seed team, I would take the chance. Right now we could end up one of the top 3 in the entire league!
     
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    I'm talking more like a free agent. Not necessarily a trade, but at this point I would jump on a Noah trade. As much as I like Rolo, our defense is weak right now. Adding a really good defensive center like Noah would do wonders for our starting unit.
     
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    Lopez shoots the ball better, both from the field and the freethrow line. Lopez doesn't turn it over as much. Lopez is a better offensive rebounder. Lopez is a better shot blocker and their points per 36min are very close (12.1 vs 11.8). Noah's PER is 18.03 while Lopez is 16.64.

    For that mild upgrade, you're willing to trade for a guy over 3 years older (Noah turns 29 next month) and who's no stranger to injuries, and who'll make approx 12m, 13m and 14m over the next couple of years, compared to Lopez who's making less than half that? But then you also need to include two lottery picks from the last two drafts and further thin out our bench. CJ, who we haven't even seen yet, was voted by his peers prior to getting injured as most likely to win rookie of the year.

    I'm not against any and all trades, but the only way I'm touching any of the starting five is for a substantial upgrade and I don't think this is worth the risk or what we'd be giving up. Not when our record is what it is. I'm much more interested in consolidating the bench a bit to bring in a better backup big or a wing who knows how to play defense.
     
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    If we get to the WCF, it would be worth it to me.
     
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    Ya I think Noah is the only center that I would consider trading Lopez for now.
     
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    Boob-No-More Why you no hire big man coach?

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    The logic in that paragraph is inconsistent. If the Bulls really want to go into full tank mode, keeping Hinrich and continuing to play him 30+ MPG would seem to be their best strategy. Those shooting percentages are brutal and Hinrich, who was once an excellent defender can no longer stray in front of younger, quicker PGs.

    BNM
     
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    I'd snap up Roy Hibbert in a heartbeat too
     
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    Boob-No-More Why you no hire big man coach?

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    No thanks. That trade makes us a LOT older. We don't need Hinrich, we already have enough sucky old guys coming off the bench and Noah is much older than Lopez. I bet Chicago would be all over that. It helps them on the road to rebuild. They get a 25-year old starting center that is still improving, plus to guys who were lottery picks in the last two drafts.

    BNM
     
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    BlazerWookee UNTILT THE DAMN PINWHEEL!

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    How embarrassing. I've fixed it, try again.
     
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