Out of the players listed below, who do you think will end their careers up with the most NBA Chamionships?Lebron JamesDwyane WadeCarmelo AnthonyChris BoshDwight HowardChris PaulGilbert ArenasGive reasons as to why you think the player you select will win the most rings.I will post what I think later.
I think James might end up with the same misfortune as KG, but if he ends up with a better supporting cast then I think he will win the most. Out of the rest of those guys I think it will be Dwight Howard. Chris Paul is going to be amazing but Howard is already in a great position on a team with a good core of young players. He's already putting up great numbers but once he gets closer to his prime and improves on the offensive end I think he will win more than 1 championship. We'll see on D-Wade. With his supporting cast aging and there being some great young talent in the East I think he will have trouble winning another one. If Ben Wallace doesen't ruin the Bulls money-wise in the future then the Bulls, Cavs, Magic and Celtics could be the top teams in the East.Anthony, we'll see if he changes teams in 4 years. Nothing much to be excited about in Denver for the future.Bosh...well, I really don't see the Raptors winning in the East. They might but I just don't see it.Arenas might win one if the Wizards have a couple great offseason's but I don't think he'll win more than some other guys on there.
I agree with you on everybody except for Lebron James. Look at what Lebron did in just his 3rd season with a VERY mediocre supporting cast at best. He almost beat a team single handedly that won a championship two years prior, and made it to the finals the previous year. I think it is nearly impossible for him to have that same misfortune. He is one of the best players that the NBA has seen in a very long time and I see him winning at the very minimum two rings. I see Dwight and Lebron each getting around 3 and Dwyane getting about 1 maybe 2 more if he is lucky.Dwight has a nice core of young players surrounding him and I wouldnt be surprised to see Vince come over after this upcoming season. When Vince does, Dwight will by now have established himself as a top PF in the league IMO and Jameer will have gotten even better. I expect big things out of Jameer this season. Also, Darko is a very good shot blocker and considering alot of defensive attention is going to be focused on Dwight, Darko will get alot of good looks. And dont underrate JJ Redick. He didnt get over 24 a game in college for no reason.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ballerman2112 @ Oct 14 2006, 10:49 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Out of the players listed below, who do you think will end their careers up with the most NBA Chamionships?Lebron JamesDwyane WadeCarmelo AnthonyChris BoshDwight HowardChris PaulGilbert ArenasGive reasons as to why you think the player you select will win the most rings.I will post what I think later.</div>I'm not sure really but.....james is a badass dude and I like what they are doing with the cavs, mike brown is a good coach who has learned from two very good coaches in pop and carisle....the nba will make sure he wins at least 3 so I'm gonna say himwade is a great player but, imo last year is his last getting a ring, shaq is on the brink of being washed up and they don't have that good of a team to help wade outmelo will never win a ring, unless he pulls a g.p.bosh is badass but the raptors win a title?? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAhoward could win one, he's gonna be a beast, and that team the magic have around him is gonna be very good....who is the coach for the magic?? if they can get a good one to teach these players, the'll be a team to be reckon withchris paul will never win a championship, the only way he gets in the finals if he moves eastarenas??? how in the blue hell did he make this list???
Maybe none of those guys on the list will never win a ringand considering Wade already has one...I'll say wade
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (P0W3RBALLIN @ Oct 15 2006, 04:55 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Maybe none of those guys on the list will never win a ringand considering Wade already has one...I'll say wade</div>I agree. All those players are on mediocre teams except Wade. Wade will probably have the most championships and he probably already got his final championship.
Since when was Cleveland mediocre? Cleveland came very close to beating the pistons who were in the finals the two previous years in which they won it won year agaisnt a prime Shaq and a prime Kobe.I dont understand how you dont think any of these players will win a ring in the future. They are the future of the NBA. All of those players will be in the top ten players in the league in at maximum of 5 seasons. And a few of them already are. I wouldn't be surprised if 5 of those 7 players win rings.
Howard's team is young and talented. They have 2 shotblockers and a great young pg. If they can keep their core together and surround them with decent role players I'm going with howard.
The Pistons won the Ring and they didn't exactly have a superstarLebron James - he has a great chance, but his team....Dwyane Wade - already has a ring.. dont think he can win another unless its within the next 2 seasonsCarmelo Anthony - decent team... but West is too strong for DenverChris Bosh - Raptors.. I'm pretty much bias of thisDwight Howard - I love Dwight Howard and Jameer Nelson.. they probably have the best chance.. it's all about Grant Hills status and if they can get a few more vets..Chris Paul - He will be an awesome PG.. he already is.. but they're in the West too.. and in the SW division..Gilbert Arenas - naw.....
Well don't take Wade out just because his team is aging. I don't see him winning with this current team again but he's a great, young player and in 5 years the Heat may have another contender there or he could go to another team. It's possible..
You have to think though guys....how much longer are guys like Tim Duncan, Kevin Garnett, Shaq, and other superstars going to be around for? In 5-7 years, those players listed above are the superstars of the NBA and will be in the same type of situation (team wise) as players like Tim Duncan and Steve Nash, and other leaders with good teams.
It's a toss up between Wade, LeBron and Dwight. Wade already has one and may get another this upcoming season. LeBron is just LeBron, with a couple of other small moves I can easily see them making the finals. As long as LeBron is on the team, they have a chance to make the finals every year.Like Melo said, the Magic have a good young team. Dwight can rebound well and score down-low and they have JJ now to provide some outside shooting. I can see him winning a couple if all goes well.Melo is the only one who I don't see winning one anytime soon. They still need a shooter and there 3 point shooting is just mediocre. Camby is getting older and injury prone. I just haven't seen them make the moves neccessary to take that extra step in the playoffs.CP3 should end up with at least one. He is great playmaker and stays with his man defensively. If he can continue to play the way he is and get better, I see the Hornets winning one somewhere down the future.
<span style="font-family:Book Antiqua">I think LBJ may end up with at least 3 or 4 rings before he retires.DWade? I dunno... His supporting cast is aging and all, so I don't see him winning another championship ring unless more BS calls are made for DWade during the Playoffs.Carmelo? I don't see him winning a championship unless he joins another team. In my opinion, the Celtics just aren't cuttin' it...Chris Bosh will not win a championship neither, unless he switches teams. The Toronto Raptors have a lot of work to do to even reach the NBA Finals.Dwight Howard may win at least one ring. He seems to me like a Shaquille O' Neal-type of player. He needs a great SG to compliment him and BAM! Kobe & Shaq duo all over again.I think CP3 can win one ring, but it depends on whether or not Tyson Chandler can be reliable and if Peja Stojakovic returns to his insane permitter shooting. I mean, Peja's still a great shooter, but he's not the same guy who could shoot from anywhere on the court.. He's not a sniper anymore.Gilbert Arenas, eh? I don't see him winning a ring at all. He'll be like AI. Antawn Jamison will be like CWebb.</span>
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ballerman2112 @ Oct 15 2006, 01:22 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Since when was Cleveland mediocre? Cleveland came very close to beating the pistons who were in the finals the two previous years in which they won it won year agaisnt a prime Shaq and a prime Kobe.I dont understand how you dont think any of these players will win a ring in the future. They are the future of the NBA. All of those players will be in the top ten players in the league in at maximum of 5 seasons. And a few of them already are. I wouldn't be surprised if 5 of those 7 players win rings.</div>Just because they're the future doesn't guarantee them a ring. You have to be in the right place at the right time to win a championship. Lebron reaching the EC semifinals only means that he is capable of leading a team and doesn't make him a guaranteed champion.A good example is Drexler, he joined the right team (Rockets) at the right time (Jordan retired). Payton and Kemp brought the Supersonics in the Finals when they were young, does it make them an automatic champion because they are the future of the NBA. Nope !!!
That's a big enough list where I'm pretty confident some of them will get a championship.And the assumption that some of them won't because of the team they're on isn't the best one. After all, how many people actually stay with one team for their whole career?
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (lakersfoelyfe @ Oct 15 2006, 01:59 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Just because they're the future doesn't guarantee them a ring. You have to be in the right place at the right time to win a championship. Lebron reaching the EC semifinals only means that he is capable of leading a team and doesn't make him a guaranteed champion.A good example is Drexler, he joined the right team (Rockets) at the right time (Jordan retired). Payton and Kemp brought the Supersonics in the Finals when they were young, does it make them an automatic champion because they are the future of the NBA. Nope !!!</div>These players are the future of the NBA and they are all going to be superstars. If you look at some of the superstars we have today, you will notice that a decent amount of them have rings, or have been to the finals. Lebron doesn't need to be in the right place at the right time because he is that good. There is no player standing in his way like a Michael Jordan. That was an awful comparison because Lebon James is the guy standing in guys like Clyde Drexlers way. Cleveland played very well last year and Lebron really didnt have any help. Larry Hughes was a no show, and the only one that played halfway decent was Zadrunas and he wasnt even that effective. Basically, Lebron carried his team and almost single handedly beat that team in which won over 65 games that season. You are so blind if you dont think Lebron James is going to win a ring. Look at what he has done already and tell me that he isnt going to win one. Players from other teams are going to flock to Cleveland because they want to play alongside "Lebron James", because they know that they will haev a very good chance to get a ring playing beside him. He is just that good.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ballerman2112 @ Oct 15 2006, 10:44 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>These players are the future of the NBA and they are all going to be superstars. If you look at some of the superstars we have today, you will notice that a decent amount of them have rings, or have been to the finals. Lebron doesn't need to be in the right place at the right time because he is that good. There is no player standing in his way like a Michael Jordan. That was an awful comparison because Lebon James is the guy standing in guys like Clyde Drexlers way. Cleveland played very well last year and Lebron really didnt have any help. Larry Hughes was a no show, and the only one that played halfway decent was Zadrunas and he wasnt even that effective. Basically, Lebron carried his team and almost single handedly beat that team in which won over 65 games that season. You are so blind if you dont think Lebron James is going to win a ring. Look at what he has done already and tell me that he isnt going to win one. Players from other teams are going to flock to Cleveland because they want to play alongside "Lebron James", because they know that they will haev a very good chance to get a ring playing beside him. He is just that good.</div>First, I never said that Lebron isn't winning a title but I won't be the one to guarantee one either.Second, I never compared Lebron to Drexler, I just stated a situation of how being in the right place and in the right time can give you a title without being the best player in the league. Sometimes it's better to be lucky than good.BTW about Lebron almost beating the Pistons is a good example why you can't GUARANTEE anything based on what's happened. Looking at how the Pistons were playing in the first half of the season, it would be so easy for us to guarantee at least a Finals Appearance. They were so good that they're on pace on breaking/tying the Bulls record and then guess what, Exactly !!!The point I'm trying to make here is that just because things look so good and rosy right now, doesn't mean a guaranteed success in the future.
I say let's not give LeBron a ring before he's actually won it. Remember Grant Hill? He was hyped up too.All it takes is one injury and LeBron's Hall of Fame-bound career crumbles.He's one of the best players around, I'll give LeBron that. But even one of the best ever doesn't guarantee a ring (look at one Kevin Garnett).
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (falconman1130 @ Oct 15 2006, 11:13 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I say let's not give LeBron a ring before he's actually won it. Remember Grant Hill? He was hyped up too.All it takes is one injury and LeBron's Hall of Fame-bound career crumbles.He's one of the best players around, I'll give LeBron that. But even one of the best ever doesn't guarantee a ring (look at one Kevin Garnett).</div>but kevin never really had a team.....at least in cleveland they are trying to get a team around lebron...........and if we gonna think like that about injuries, then this whole thread is pointless, cause every one of those players can get a career ending injury. but good thing people try to stay with a postive mind and don't prepare for the worse....if everyone did it would be pointless to talk basketball
