Who will get traded first

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  1. NYR1962

    NYR1962 Member

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    Probably another reason why there should be no quick fix. I would have to think though that players like a Girardi or Staal that could really help a contender would entice multiple offers, driving up the price. That would take awhile, bring us near the trade deadline, and depend on how the team plays from here. I don't expect anything big to happen until the deadline.
     
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    Ranger71 Well-Known Member

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    I don't know if Ottawa is willing to move Michalek yet but adding a big foward and a dman like Corvo who could help the pp could be a reasonable deal. DZ prospect pick would do it. Even though both are Ufas it fills needs for the rest of this year.
     
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    dumpstralmannow Active Member

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    I'd try to do

    Stralman

    to Bruins

    Matt Fraser

    Del Zotto

    to Kings

    King, Forbort

    Call Allen and McIlrath up

    Trade D. Moore

    to Canes 2nd round pick

    Trade Dorsett and Carcillo

    to Edmonton

    Second round pick.
     
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    NYR31 Moderator Staff Member Moderator

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    lol, Dump thinks Dorsett and Carcillo are worth basically a 1st rd pick? The Oil's 2nd rounder will be in the 31-33 range. We already know Carcillo is worth shit as we only gave up a 7th rounder.
     
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    NYR31 Moderator Staff Member Moderator

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    Not a big fan of Michalek and see too much risk in that type of move.
     
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    dumpstralmannow Active Member

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    Like Dorsett but Fraser and King make him expendable

    Kreider-Stepan-Nash
    Zucc-Brassard-Callahan
    Pouliot-Miller-Hagelin
    Fraser-Boyle-King

    McDonagh-Girardi
    Staal-McIlrath
    Allen-Moore
     
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    dumpstralmannow Active Member

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    Let Richards sell stuff at the vendors to help pay for his salary.
     
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    I would do DZ for King straight up.
     
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    I hear you. I wasn't necessarily meaning Buff. I agree they have to be careful because trading chips means you don't have those chips for other trades, and the wrong deal could be devastating. I also wouldn't mind a forward, but we need more than one, and I'd prefer whoever they might get have size, strength, and toughness. The entire makeup of the team needs upgrades in those departments.
     
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    LOL. 31 still thinks the Oilers give a crap about their second round pick when their fan base is revolting because the team has sucked for 10 straight years. The Oilers would trade any of their picks for players that would help them win now.

    Maybe make it Moore, Carcillo and a prospect like Noreau for their second. Either way, the Oilers could care less about their second round draft pick.
     
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    NYR31 Moderator Staff Member Moderator

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    the Oilers do need some major changes, but Dorsett/Carcillo does nothing to help them win right now or ever. They're 4th liners and they aren't even young where you could at least sell them on potential.

    Moore/prospect is much more likely to happen, and that should only be the beginning of the changes that team needs.
     
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    dumpstralmannow Active Member

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    I absolutely think they would trade a second rounder for Dorsett. Dorsett is a very good, 4th line player. Eakins has been complaining that the Oilers have a bunch of players with no heart or balls. That is exactly what Dorsett has.
     
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    Also, as I researched one time. Only 22% of second round picks I looked at over an 8 year period made the NHL. Of that amount, I considered 11% good NHL players. In other words, almost 90% of all second round picks are busts. People over value 2nd round picks so much it's mind boggling. Especially our fans because they look at our second round picks which have been very good. IMO, second round picks are only very valuable if you have them in numbers.
     
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    NYR31 Moderator Staff Member Moderator

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    Obviously don't follow the Oilers closely, but my impression from afar is they have too many rich, big-ego 1st rd picks and there's no cohesiveness on that team. They could trade 2 of Gagner / RNH / Yakupov / Hall and get great returns and remake that team quickly.
     
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    I'd think Yakupov will be the first to go, he dosen't seem like a fit with his personality and the whole Russian factor in Canada. The Rangers should just pull the trigger on Hemsky for DZ/pick if EDM is willing.
     
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    The Oilers made a huge mistake drafting Yakupov over some of the top defenseman available. There was no reason for it but incredible stupidity. They already had several top talents offensively on the team.

    They need 3-4 players like Dorsett and Boyle who can play hockey at even strength without letting up goals to the other team.

    31 is correct though. The fact those morons haven't traded off somebody like Yakupov, Eberle or Gagne for some top role player depth or defenseman help is moronic.

    For example, I don't want Yakupov because I don't trust Russian players to play in the NHL. However, if the Rangers offered Allen, Lindberg, Dorsett and Talbot for Yakupov, the Oilers would be beyond stupid not to do that. I consider all 4 of those guys locks to play 10 years in the NHL and help a team not give up goals. I think Lindberg will eventually be a top 3rd line NHL center who is awesome on draws. I consider Dorsett an excellent 4th line forward. I think Allen can be a very good, 5th defenseman type. Cam gives the Oilers a goalie that can actually stop the puck. However, the Oilers thinking is they need a star at every position and that is not how you build a team. If you proposed that trade on HF the idiots on that board would lose their mind. All they look at is offensive numbers. They value no defense at all on that board. I think Yakupov is just as likely to bolt for the KHL in 5 years as he is to be a top NHL player.
     
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