Shaq says 4 players can be considered for MVP and Aldridge is one or the 4 players..

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    Re: Shaq says 4 players can be considered for MVP and Aldridge is one or the 4 player

    Of course. And who REALLY couldn't handle the truth? They guy shouting about how right he thought he was... maybe? It's called irony. You missed the point... how ironic.
     
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    Re: Shaq says 4 players can be considered for MVP and Aldridge is one or the 4 player

    Post 15.
    Unless you meant "2nd- or 3rd- place MVP" and I misunderstood. In that case, we agree.
     
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    Re: Shaq says 4 players can be considered for MVP and Aldridge is one or the 4 player

    I didn't miss the point. I caught you in another mistake.
     
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    Re: Shaq says 4 players can be considered for MVP and Aldridge is one or the 4 player

    The path to total enlightenment.

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    Re: Shaq says 4 players can be considered for MVP and Aldridge is one or the 4 player

    What a relief. Now we're getting somewhere. You've identified the problem.

    You did miss the point. Enjoy your straight jacket Colonel. lol
     
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    Re: Shaq says 4 players can be considered for MVP and Aldridge is one or the 4 player

    So, back to basketball, Durant? Or were you actually meaning "2nd- or 3rd" when you shouted MVP?
     
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    Re: Shaq says 4 players can be considered for MVP and Aldridge is one or the 4 player

    We don't agree. "LA probably isn't even the MVP of this team...". Do you read what you type? Or just shout down people in general?
     
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    Re: Shaq says 4 players can be considered for MVP and Aldridge is one or the 4 player

    What is the sound of one tail wagging?
     
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    Re: Shaq says 4 players can be considered for MVP and Aldridge is one or the 4 player

    LOL

    For posters like BfromWA, it's much easier to win arguments when you construct them in your own head!
     
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    Re: Shaq says 4 players can be considered for MVP and Aldridge is one or the 4 player

    Holy crap! Have you ever been to an NBA game? Crowds tend to chant "MVP MVP MVP" at their best player on very good teams at the end of games. I have a feeling you'd be the guy saying "GUIZE, DURANT IS THE MORE OBVIOUS CANDIDATE, AND DID YOU KNOW ALDRIDGE SHOOTS JUMPS SHOTS??? STOP CHANTING MVP IT'S DURANT AND JUMPSHOTSJUMPSHOTSJUMPSHOTS!!!"

    I'd pour out the flat part of my beer on that guy, and then, of course, would see it posted on the internet on how terrible Blazer fans are, and how they're the worst in the league.
     
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    Re: Shaq says 4 players can be considered for MVP and Aldridge is one or the 4 player

    Dude, you're like my mother in law. You just make up your own reality and then keep repeating it until it becomes true in your mind.

    I never begged to be a mod. Ever. Not once. Stop pretending like I did.

    And here you are arguing with Brian over LA. So can I start bashing on you every time Dame does something good? If he makes the All-Star game, can I remind you how you wouldn't shut up about his defense? I'm going to go ahead and bookmark that thread for later. Should be a tasty treat to serve up every time Lillard scores 25+ points.

    You are honestly the most vindictive poster in the history of this forum. Nobody holds grudges like you, and nobody drags up old shit like you do. You are the king of personal attacks.
     
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    Re: Shaq says 4 players can be considered for MVP and Aldridge is one or the 4 player

    Where is my grudge against BrianfromWA? We all know you quit being a mod, and then asked to become one again, and accepted it.

    Where is that part of your mod history not accurate?
     
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    Re: Shaq says 4 players can be considered for MVP and Aldridge is one or the 4 player

    NateBishop3 quit being a moderator a few years ago. After he quit being a mod, he then became a moderator again.

    Where am I wrong in this, Nate?
     
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    Re: Shaq says 4 players can be considered for MVP and Aldridge is one or the 4 player

    I read what I type, and I'm not shouting at all.

    Post 3 I said he's in the conversation, but not the MVP.

    Last week I showed pretty conclusively that, aside from 3 shots per game more he was taking, that he hadn't significantly changed his efficiency. I posted that offensive efficiency had a very strong correlation to team wins. I showed that his PPG were up because he was taking more shots, and they were for the most part more jumpers. Jumpers that he hit at a 43-44% rate. Which doesn't increase offensive efficiency when you get (at the best range) .94 points every time you take that shot. (Edit: without pulling up eblazer's stats, I think it was 42% in the 10-15', 47% in the 16-19', and 41% in the 20-24', for a 43% overall and a 47% on his "best"). It pulls his overall efficiency down (and since he shoots by far the most on the team) and the team's (again, correlating to wins). His FG% and EFG% were the lowest of his career. Increases in offensive efficiency were by Damian (getting 4 more ppg on the same amount of shots as last year), Wes (shooting the highest % of his career), Nic being much more aggressive passing and rebounding (while shooting the 2nd-best of his career in eFG), and Lopez taking over for Hickson (which is a class in itself on why counting stats should be taken with a grain of salt).

    Since that thread, he has played 4 games (2-2 against OKC, HOU, DAL and DEN) and had 3 of the 6 best games he's had (based on GmSc) all year. He's taken over 50% of his shots in the paint. He's averaging 10FTs/g instead of 5. He's up to 5 ORB/g, and his TRB up to 15/g. He's averaging 32.5ppg (higher than his 24.7 the year), a level that is better than Durant or LBJ's full-season marks.

    7-14 J, 8-15 in paint, 14-17 FT v.DEN(win) 12 TRB
    5-14 J, 7-12 in paint, 5-8 FT @OKC (loss) 16 TRB
    2-11 J, 9-15 in paint, 5-6FT @HOU (loss) 20 TRB
    3-9 J, 8-9 in paint 8-9FT @DAL (win) 12 TRB

    Over this (I fully admit) great stretch of 4 games from LMA, he's taken 99 shots at a 50% fg%. 48 Jumpers outside the paint, 51 in the paint. On his jumpers he's shooting 17-48, which is 34%. On his shots in the paint, he's shooting 32-51, or 64%. But the increase in paint shots has also led to an increase in FTA and FT (made). From shooting 5 per game for most of the last 3 years, he shot 10 FT/g at 80%, getting an extra 4ppg just from FT. He's also upped his ORBs to 5/g. Most importantly (in my particular thinking) is that he's getting 1.3 points per shot, which is an elite efficiency and one that helps the team, especially when a teammate is having a poor game). If he's splitting his shots 50/50 and drawing fouls, he can keep taking double the shots of anyone else on the team. If he were to shoot 25x/game at the efficiencies that he was when BF originally posted the L_Train thread,

    In short, since he's started playing inside the paint (coincidentally coinciding with our long L-Train thread) he's been playing at a level that, if sustained, would be one of the great seasons of the past couple of decades. When he is shooting the majority of his shots as jumpers, efficiency (both personal and team) fall, which correlates to stronger chance for losses.
     
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    Re: Shaq says 4 players can be considered for MVP and Aldridge is one or the 4 player

    I love Dame! I said it repeatedly in my thread where I called out his defense. I hope tonight is a wake-up call for him, because he has MVP-level talent.

    What the fuck is your point?
     
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    Re: Shaq says 4 players can be considered for MVP and Aldridge is one or the 4 player

    tl;dr

    I'm going to guess it's critical of LMA, though, and that LMA shoots jump shots.
     
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    Re: Shaq says 4 players can be considered for MVP and Aldridge is one or the 4 player

    I didn't ask. Denny asked if I wanted to be a mod again and I accepted.

    I quit. Denny asked if I wanted to return. I did. The end.

    You are the only person who has said that I begged to return, and you've brought it up at least 100 times. And to say you don't have a grudge against Brian is laughable. You bring up last summer almost every day, and his thread about LA's jump shooting on a regular basis. Just let it go. It's his opinion, he's entitled to his opinion, he backs his opinions up with facts and that's how people SHOULD debate on this forum. You guys take it so personally when someone "bashes" on a player that you like/respect. It's a game. We are here to talk about that game. Let the man have an opinion for fucks sake.
     
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    Re: Shaq says 4 players can be considered for MVP and Aldridge is one or the 4 player

    OH! So if Brian had started his threads with "I love Dame. He's a great player. Now here is something that he sucks at..." that would have been fine?

    Also.... do you really need to start a new post to address different points in the same post?
     
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    Re: Shaq says 4 players can be considered for MVP and Aldridge is one or the 4 player

    When the opinion is worthy of ridicule, it's usually OK to ridicule that poster. Unless they're a mod, apparently. MIXUM was banned for much less than what BfromWA posts these days.
     
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    Re: Shaq says 4 players can be considered for MVP and Aldridge is one or the 4 player

    Can't you take this to PM with me?
     
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