Instead of using the No. 2 pick on Paul, they went for Marvin Williams, who was the league's most disappointing rookie. I hadn't seen him much in college, and when I saw him last season I was really surprised that he wasn't more lively on the floor. Everybody knew he was raw, but I figured he would be a Stromile Swift type whose athleticism would give him a platform to improve. Instead he turned out to be an average NBA athlete with below average basketball skills. I just can't figure out what they saw in him to warrant such a high pick, because his athleticism isn't going to improve. He looks like the kind of guy who will have to develop a face-up game or some kind of skill to take bigger guys off the dribble at power forward. He needs to forget about being the No. 2 pick and work hard to develop a niche -- just because he went high in the draft doesn't guarantee that he's going to make it in the league ... NBA scouts take...Atlanta Hawks 2006 Preview, SI.com.http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/basketbal...ines/hawks.html Wow, thats very different than what I've heard about him in the draft...etc...Interesting.
This atlanta team just doesn't seem to know what their are doing. They need new management and until they get new management they're going to remain very bad.
Taking Marvin over Chris Paul was such a big mistake. It makes no sense why they took him, especially considering he plays the same position as like 4 of their rotation players at the time (and they still have a SG/SF logjam IMO). They drafted him based on nothing but taking the scouts' word and his potential level. They did not draft at all by the needs of the team, and what makes it worse is that their #1 need was available (and is the best player in the draft class). I do, however, think Marvin Williams is going to be a very good player in this league, no question IMO. This article hates on him a bit too much. He's not an average athlete, he's above average. And yeah, he has raw skills, but once they develope he will be a player.
I don't expect Marvin to be anywhere near Jordan or Lebron. Marvin's numbers were better than Jordan's per minute in Carolina but that doesn't mean that much in the big picture except to see that Marvin was arguably the most efficient freshman in UNC history. That is good but the proof is in the pudding which aka reason why he was so hyped.CP3 right now gets HYPE like a superstar, and we all admit that he had a great rookie season, but the fact remains that he's only played one season and hasn't yet gone down in history as one of the greatest players ever. He hasn't even averaged more than 16 ppg or been to the playoffs, much less established himself as a player who should be mentioned with the likes of Michael Jordan, Magic Johnson or Larry Bird.Yes, Chris Paul's rookie season compares favorably with some of the better rookie seasons by PG's in the NBA; but then again, Marvin's rookie season was almost indistinguishable statistically from Kevin Garnett's, Dirk Nowitizki's, Kobe Byrant's, and Tracy McGrady's. By pointing this out I'm not saying that CP is bad, or that Marvin will certainly be as good as KG. I'm just saying that maybe it's too early to say that Marvin has no chance of becoming something other than a franchise-killing mistake.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CelticBalla32 @ Oct 19 2006, 07:10 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Taking Marvin over Chris Paul was such a big mistake. It makes no sense why they took him, especially considering he plays the same position as like 4 of their rotation players at the time (and they still have a SG/SF logjam IMO).They drafted him based on nothing but taking the scouts' word and his potential level. They did not draft at all by the needs of the team, and what makes it worse is that their #1 need was available (and is the best player in the draft class).I do, however, think Marvin Williams is going to be a very good player in this league, no question IMO. This article hates on him a bit too much. He's not an average athlete, he's above average. And yeah, he has raw skills, but once they develope he will be a player.</div> Have you really watched Marvin Williams? I can honestly say I have not. I'm not sure if this guy is accurate but considering he's a scout I put my faith in his opinion. I compare Marvin Williams to Antawn Jamison.
Seriously, everybody says they shouldve picked Paul instead of Deron Williams or Marvin Williams, but did anybody know Paul was going to be that good? No, if I remembered correctly Marvin Williams and Deron Williams were supposed to be more NBA than Paul which made Utah and Atlanta pick them. And as for Marvin, he was a young rookie and they didnt want to put much pressure on him if they didnt need to...and they didnt. Marvin is a good offensive player and is still growing. I have never though Marvin Williams as a Stromile type of athlete...dont jinx him like that. But he is still athletic. I think Marvin Williams can become a star in this league, most rookies are just instant stars like Paul anyways. Its only one season, wait atleast a couple before you start critizing on players.
Well..This guy is an idiot..Obviously he didn't watch many Hawks games..He's 20-21 years old; he improved rapidly all season long. He DOPES have a face up game, he can take it to the rack, or shoot the 3. Wtf is he talking about he wasent lively? Are you freakin serious? He was one of the more enthusiastic players on this team last year..This guy is calling him the next athletic-bust, like Stromile Swift. He's a moron. Go watch him play for the next couple years, then he can call him a bust.
Marvin is going to be a freak when he matures though. Amazingly athletic, he can shoot, rebound, dunk. He's a guarenteed 24, 8 guy once he matures.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CelticBalla32 @ Oct 19 2006, 07:10 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Taking Marvin over Chris Paul was such a big mistake. It makes no sense why they took him, especially considering he plays the same position as like 4 of their rotation players at the time (and they still have a SG/SF logjam IMO).They drafted him based on nothing but taking the scouts' word and his potential level. They did not draft at all by the needs of the team, and what makes it worse is that their #1 need was available (and is the best player in the draft class).I do, however, think Marvin Williams is going to be a very good player in this league, no question IMO. This article hates on him a bit too much. He's not an average athlete, he's above average. And yeah, he has raw skills, but once they develope he will be a player.</div>I think picking Marvin was a good choice. If we got Chris Paul, we wouldn't have gotten Joe Johnson. We got Joe Johnson since Billy Knight wanted him to play PG. If we got Chris we would have been stuck with Chris Paul and just a bunch of highflyers. But since we got Marvin, we got Joe Johnson, a better player than Chris Paul. He is also a veteran player that teaches these young players how to play.
But another point is that no team in the NBA predicted Paul would be this superstar. Last season I think he played like a pussy sometimes.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Pinoy Balla @ Nov 11 2006, 09:52 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>But another point is that no team in the NBA predicted Paul would be this superstar. Last season I think he played like a pussy sometimes.</div>And you saw him play..how many times?
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (hawksno1fan @ Nov 11 2006, 10:35 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I saw Marvin play every game he has played in the NBA.</div>So have I..but I wasn't asking you..
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (hawksno1fan @ Nov 11 2006, 09:48 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I think picking Marvin was a good choice. If we got Chris Paul, we wouldn't have gotten Joe Johnson. We got Joe Johnson since Billy Knight wanted him to play PG. If we got Chris we would have been stuck with Chris Paul and just a bunch of highflyers. But since we got Marvin, we got Joe Johnson, a better player than Chris Paul. He is also a veteran player that teaches these young players how to play.</div>OK, first of all, Joe Johnson didnt start most of the game at point guard for the Hawks. Royal Ivey did. After getting Williams, you have two young studs playing the same position. That's a bit of a problem. And I would rather have Chris Paul than JJ right now. Chris Paul can score, he is quick, got a bit of a jumper, great passer, and he plays D. And he is only in his 2nd season. The Hawks biggest need is a pg, and he would have been a great pick for them. They might be in playoff contention if their starting line looked like this:C-Lorenzen WrightPF-Zaza PachuliaSF-Josh SmithSG-Joe JohnsonPG-Chris Paul.Tell me. What is wrong with Chris Paul and a bunch of high flyers?
