Re: Do the ESPN draft 'analysts' take it too far? I think they are a disgrace and what they have done the last 3 years has been sickening. I think every player deserves his moment on stage, for most of these players it's a dream and the family is there...etc..To have 4 babbling idiots rip a guy and take over the moment is wrong. What they did to Josh Smith, Charlie Villianueva was ridiculous and I can't believe this has not gotten more disscussion. (Just so you know I made this topic because of the recent Balkman topic...etc).
Re: Do the ESPN draft 'analysts' take it too far? I completely agree with you BCB. Why would you want to rip someone up on his big day, the day he finally gets drafted into the NBA? They are one of the reasons I do not watch the draft.
Re: Do the ESPN draft 'analysts' take it too far? I agree - especially because these guys have never played NBA ball, and the ones that did were scrubs. Greg Anthony> PFT. Loser. I think is is a nasty spineless thing to do. I loathe them.
Re: Do the ESPN draft 'analysts' take it too far? I agree with you to a point. I agree that sometimes they go a little too far with voicing their opinion (eh hem... Stephen A). But at the end of the day, it IS their job to voice their opinions. You may not like how they say it, or what they say, but it's their job to be there and voice their opinions.Also, what Stephen A. said about Charlie V was no knock on him, all he said was that he didn't understand why they would take him when Bosh plays the same position. If I recall, he said something like "No knock on Charlie Villanueva, he's going to be a good player, but why would Toronto take him when their best player plays the same position?" I don't remember what he said about J-Smoov, but what he said about Villanueva was nothing against him, it was against the pick and the fit.
Re: Do the ESPN draft 'analysts' take it too far? <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BrewCityBuck @ Oct 20 2006, 08:29 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I think they are a disgrace and what they have done the last 3 years has been sickening. I think every player deserves his moment on stage, for most of these players it's a dream and the family is there...etc..To have 4 babbling idiots rip a guy and take over the moment is wrong. What they did to Josh Smith, Charlie Villianueva was ridiculous and I can't believe this has not gotten more disscussion. (Just so you know I made this topic because of the recent Balkman topic...etc).</div> :rock: Completely agree
Re: Do the ESPN draft 'analysts' take it too far? Does anyone realize that this is all entertainment, and getting "out of hand" is all part of it? Of course, I'm not condoning it, and I think it's wrong. However, ESPN cares about the ratings, not the quality. Quantity (and money) over content is their motto, and people will watch guys like Stephen A.
Re: Do the ESPN draft 'analysts' take it too far? How about they just dont air the comments over the speaker system in the Garden. It would be nice to have some commentary on it because, well, it is the draft but if they are going to rip somebody up, then they should just not put it over the system for everyone to hear.
Re: Do the ESPN draft 'analysts' take it too far? I like Stephen A, and I do recall him questioning why they would pick a PF with Bosh nor Charlie V able to play center, at that point, we didnt know Charlie V had the skills to play SF. And btw, when former players(Magic Johnson, Reggie Miller, Charles Barkley etc.) talk about players and draft picks, they are usually right so I really dont care much about anybodys opinion if they didnt play with or coach NBA players. I think Balkman was a good pickup for the Knicks, why in 1st? I dont know, but he brings tougness, defense and gritty play to the Knicks(which they need badly). Knicks might be horrible, but they have tons of talent, they dont need much more. And, if I recall, the white guy(forgot his name), on draft night pointed out that Isiah Thomas' draft picks have always been really good, and he said its a excellent pick up to get Balkman, but just like the rest of us, dont know why Knicks picked him so early.
Re: Do the ESPN draft 'analysts' take it too far? <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (jhowardfan @ Oct 20 2006, 10:33 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>How about they just dont air the comments over the speaker system in the Garden. It would be nice to have some commentary on it because, well, it is the draft but if they are going to rip somebody up, then they should just not put it over the system for everyone to hear.</div>Do the comments get played at the Garden also?
Re: Do the ESPN draft 'analysts' take it too far? I'm talking about when the guys on stage, shaking the hand, during that moment. I don't care what they say afterward but I think it's unprofessional to watch Josh Smith during his dream moment shaking David Sterns hand and seeing his family crying...and then having to hear some scrub-ex NBA player blurting out, ' HE HAS VERY HIGH BUST POTENTIAL...etc...etc...and it's echoed loudlly throughout the building.
Re: Do the ESPN draft 'analysts' take it too far? <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (kingjamez @ Oct 20 2006, 10:10 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Do the comments get played at the Garden also?</div>I think they do, you can kinda hear the echo when watching it
Re: Do the ESPN draft 'analysts' take it too far? <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>I like Stephen A, and I do recall him questioning why they would pick a PF with Bosh nor Charlie V able to play center, at that point, we didnt know Charlie V had the skills to play SF. And btw, when former players(Magic Johnson, Reggie Miller, Charles Barkley etc.) talk about players and draft picks, they are usually right so I really dont care much about anybodys opinion if they didnt play with or coach NBA players. I think Balkman was a good pickup for the Knicks, why in 1st? I dont know, but he brings tougness, defense and gritty play to the Knicks(which they need badly). Knicks might be horrible, but they have tons of talent, they dont need much more. And, if I recall, the white guy(forgot his name), on draft night pointed out that Isiah Thomas' draft picks have always been really good, and he said its a excellent pick up to get Balkman, but just like the rest of us, dont know why Knicks picked him so early.</div>A good reason not to question teams/players on draft day, it's ok for them to voice their opinion about the drafted players but you don't say negative things about them during the draft, just like what most of you said...........this is a big day for the rookies, you respect the teams decision and the players being drafted. Whoever is broadcasting the draft should say positive things about the player, things they're good at.............there's always the next day if you disagree by the selection.Getting drafted in the NBA is like graduating in Highschool, receiving your degree, etc. it should be respected and conducted the right way imo. Those guys are not hosting a talkshow they're hosting a DRAFT.
Re: Do the ESPN draft 'analysts' take it too far? I remember when Dick Vitale was interviewd after Chris Bosh was selected. He said something along the lines of:"I don't understand this. Bosh will be a good player in three years. They should've taken someone ready. This makes no sense"And that year Bosh was All Rookie 1st Team and playing great basketball. Just prove em wrong young guns
Re: Do the ESPN draft 'analysts' take it too far? It is their job to voice their opininon and this is the pros you're going to get bashed your whole career, thats just apart of the game. And once again I don't ever remember hearing Greg Anthony bash Balkman, what he said was it wasn't a smart pick because he was going to be availible at a later pick.
Re: Do the ESPN draft 'analysts' take it too far? <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (kingjamez @ Oct 20 2006, 11:10 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Do the comments get played at the Garden also?</div>Yeah they do. I remember reading an article on Charlie V's thoughts after the draft. He said as soon as he went up to shake Stern's hands, he can hear the ESPN guys made those "harsh" comments on him. I do agree with your point BCB. No matter how this is entertainment and all that, this is probably the players' biggest day of their lives, and hearing such comments from analysts is just
Re: Do the ESPN draft 'analysts' take it too far? It's their job to do this stuff and I like to hear it but the least they can do is to stop playing some of the parts for everyone to hear at the Garden because it's just horrible for a player to hear that stuff when they first get drafted.
Re: Do the ESPN draft 'analysts' take it too far? <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (lakersfoelyfe @ Oct 20 2006, 11:21 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Getting drafted in the NBA is like graduating in Highschool, receiving your degree, etc. it should be respected and conducted the right way imo. Those guys are not hosting a talkshow they're hosting a DRAFT.</div>What? No it's not! All due respect, because I know the athletes who've gotten to the draft have worked hard, but comparing it to getting your degree? To a high school diploma? The draft is a high profile way for the NBA to add talent to the league. It's pomp and circumstance surrounding a BUSINESS decision. These players are getting a JOB. And in their job they will be analyzed and watched constantly. The fact is they know what they're getting into. The draft is a place where some go too high, some go too low. It's not like they've never had an opportunity to see a draft or read basketball analysis before. What they need to do is toughen up and use it to motivate them to prove their critics wrong rather than whine about it. Same goes for the guys doing the drafting. In Isaiah Thomas' case he of ALL people shouldn't be shooting comments back at guys who criticized his decision. ESPECIALLY this early. Just cause the guy has a couple of good preseason games doesn't mean he's a superstar in the making.The analysists get paid to analyze. The players get paid to play. End of story.
Re: Do the ESPN draft 'analysts' take it too far? <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (falconman1130 @ Oct 21 2006, 11:13 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>What? No it's not! All due respect, because I know the athletes who've gotten to the draft have worked hard, but comparing it to getting your degree? To a high school diploma? The draft is a high profile way for the NBA to add talent to the league. It's pomp and circumstance surrounding a BUSINESS decision. These players are getting a JOB. And in their job they will be analyzed and watched constantly.</div>if you look at it that way then I agree with you but I look at it more as an achievement, I'm not saying that the analyst should make them look like an angel, all I want for them is to be fair and not to disrespect a player when his name is being called on stage.
Re: Do the ESPN draft 'analysts' take it too far? Nah, to me it's the night they got hired. It's a business, the only reason the NBA makes it a ceremony is to hype themselves.
