lol...unbelievable...you didn't compare the positions, you compared the players without taking into account their positions. 1. Is it fair to compare offensive value/output between the positions of SS and 3B...yes or no? 2. Is it fair to compare the salaries/payrolls between the Yanx and the Atlanta fucking Braves...yes or no?
Why notwhen talking about the two players and their value? Why are you separating two aspects that is very much a part of deciding who you start a team with. What chopper did was more at his position than what jeter did. Sent from my SPH-L710 using Tapatalk
...not surprised at your answer...but you still make no sense. ...so let me get this straight, do you seriously think that if the roles were reversed, Chipper would not have made more money ( $168 Mil) playing for the Yankees than he did playing for the Braves? ...and conversely, do you seriously think Jeter would have made just as much money ($253 Mil) if he had played for the Braves for his whole career? ...sorry, but your payroll theorem is horribly flawed.
Holy shot do you get fixated on one part instead of the overall opinion. ..chipper had opportunities to make that money and choose not to. Sent from my SPH-L710 using Tapatalk
...I'm not "fixated" on anything...you pointed to salary behind your reasoning...and I pointed out quite clearly that your theory is flawed and twisted. ...but I can understand why you chose not to answer.
Chipper had a rough ending to his career injury wise or keep in mind you're talking about a guy who would've went well over 3000 hits and 500 homers. That being said taking the totality of their careers into consideration I couldn't take him over Jeter.
To answer your question....NO Jeter would not be worth anywhere near to any other team than what he is "worth" to the Yankees. With that said.....Again Jones had opportunities to earn more and choose not to. Why? He could have went to LA, the Mets, or even the Yankees to cash in and didn't. If you are the Kanas City Royals...who would you take, knowing the salaries are what they are...you take Jones in a heart beat.
lets get back to the original thought....how many other third basement were switching hitting power hitters in the late 90's early 2000's? Would you say Chipper was one, if not, the best third basement of his generation? Who would rank higher as a third baseman? Compare that to Jeter as a shortstop....would Arod and Normar rank higher as SS? You want to say Jeter because he has outlast Jones in the amount of seasons. Fine... You want to say Jeter has more intangiables than Jones...not sure how you quantify that but fine.. But to say Jeter was overall a better player and someone you would start a team with over Jones, Ill disagree with you. I will also say Jeter benefited a lot more playing with the Yankees during his career than Jones did with the Braves. A lot more talent surrounded Jeter up and down the lineup vs what Jones had.
...you could have stopped right there. ...That statement alone blows your "money" angle right out of the water. If you are admitting that Jeter's salary would have been LESS with another franchise, you also have to admit that Chipper's salary would have been MORE with the Yankees. Again, you are assuming that Jones "money/salary" would not have MORE if he had been with the Yanx.
...so you can't actually quote someone, right?...pretty much what I thought...sorry, but you're wrong again. No one who has said that they would rather have Jeter than Chipper has said that...but make things up if you want. ...top shelf SSs are harder to come by than 3Bmen. And it's pretty much obvious to just about everyone that when you are "starting a team", you start by building "up the middle" (SS, 2B, CF, and C). ...and not one person, and certainly not me, has said that Chipper was not a fine player. In fact, he went to the same school I went to in my home town and I'm quite aware of his career. But Jeter dreamed of playing for the Yanx since he was 5-6 years old and that was part of the reasoning behind drafting him in the first place.
And for clarity sake, let's be real...of Jeter, ARod, Nomad and Tejada, only Jeter is going into the HOF. In my mind, that settles who was the best, and we didn't even have to count rings. And I gave my logic/formula as to why I would prefer to build my franchise around a talented SS. No disrespect to Chipper, but a quick look at the NL AS rosters during his career, there was some stiff competition at 3B. And yes, a few one year wonders, but that's the point, you can fill that hole in your lineup easier than a SS.
that's bullshit...you are supposed to be sound defensively up the middle....but you take the better player when presented on starting a team.
I have asked what other switch hitting 3rd basemen would you take over the same period of time... During their primes, Arod was superior....Tejada and Nomar were just as good with Nomar being a better hitter...you want solid up the middle defense..then you take Omar Viquel.
...you simply cannot stay on topic without bringing up even more irrelevancies...we're talking about building a team in 1995, right? ...surprised you didn't pull Ozzie Smith or Bill Mazeroski out of your ass.
OK great, in 1995 you want Omar Vizquel. Then I'll take Matt Williams at 3B. Have you noticed not too many people are putting as much value on switch hitting ? No one is saying he wasn't rare if you want to parse things down to that level. But generally speaking a good power hitting 3B isn't that hard to come by compared to a well rounded SS. What part of building a franchise down the middle of the field do you now agree with? Thus far you are saying that you don't need a SS if you have a switching hitting 3B with power and average. Got any examples where that philosophy has worked?
