Ryan Callahan wants NORTH of $6.5 million/close to $7 million

If Glen can resign Girardi before the deadline for $5 mil its shows Dan's commitment to the Rangers because he would definitely get Callahan type money come free agency. Callahan on the other hand has no chance in my opinion of getting $6.5+, he's just posturing. Trading him to another team as a rental and then looking to resign him over the summer is another possibility. Glen's $6 mil offer may be the best Ryan sees come free agency.

 

Hard to believe we might pay a 3rd line wing who is always hurt 6 mill plus. Unfortunately, the only way I see Sather getting much value back for cally is with a sign and trade and what team is going to sign him for 6 mill plus outside of maybe buffalo?

 

On NHL Live this afternoon, Dave Maloney asked Bob McKenzie about the status of Ryan Callahan and Dan Girardi.

On Ryan Callahan, “It doesn’t seem that they are close but I do know that Steve Bartlett, the agent for Ryan Callahan, touched base with the Rangers today but I wouldn’t suggest that it was substantive contract negotiations. Right now the two sides seem far apart. The sense is that Ryan Callahan is looking for a seven-year deal of upwards of $6.5 million per year, somewhere between $6.5 and $7 million per year. I think the New York Rangers are prepared to give him $6 million and maybe a bit more than $6 but maybe on a lesser term. We will see how this plays out. I know the Rangers have been kind of working on the deadline of trying to solve this before the Olympic break.”

On Dan Girardi, “similar kind of situation. There is a little bit more optimism that they will get a deal done with him and there has been some dialogue over the last 24-48hours on Girardi’s contract but I don’t think it’s necessarily imminent either.”

 

It is all relative I guess. If someone, even one team, is willing to pay Cally between 6.5 and 7 mill per then I guess you could argue he is worth that, but to me I think it is nutty to even think he is worth close to that, especially over 6 or 7 seasons.

He is a 3rd line guy. A guy who can score 20 goals +/-. A good solid player. A good solid leader. He is tough and gritty. That is all true, and that is why I would go into the 5's to re-sign him. Without those extra things he would be a guy in the 4's I think.

But for him to act like he is a 6.5 mill per plus player is just crazy. It's what angers me about athletes in a capped sport. I fully get they have short careers. I fully get they need to get paid when they can. But he makes over 4 mill per now. The Rangers offered him 30 mill on a new deal. Why does he have to try and break the bank and make the Rangers overpay when all it will do is hurt their chances to win a cup. I don't get it.

We spent 500 K too much on Hank IMO, I would have liked him at 8 mill per tops. Now we have to overpay Cally as well.

To me Girardi and Cally should both take good solid deals. Deals that will set them both up for life (as if they aren't already set up for life) and show they want to be in NY and want to win a cup. They could easily both re-sign for 5 years and 5 to 5.5 per season. Maybe 5 years 26 or 27 mill each. Why is that so crazy? Look at what the guys on the Sharks did (both of their cap #'s went down). Look at what Sharp did with the Hawks (only a 5.9 mill per cap hit).

If Cally was a lock stud player I'd say yeah he has to get that much. But for what he adds, take an offer in the mid 5's per for 5 seasons and be happy. At this point I would even be okay with 5 years 28-30 mill for each guy. Get them both locked up for 11.5 to 12 mill per total.

Makes me shake my head.

 

Cally is acting like he is a freaking Mark Messier.

 

What compounds the problem with Cally's demands is how it will affect Glen's ability to resign other free agents over the summer. Brassard has picked up his game and seems to have adjusted nicely to AV's system, would assume Glen wants him back but what is Derick's agent going to demand, $5 mil? Zuccarello made $1.5 mil this year and is tied for the team lead in scoring, he deserves a nice raise and if Cally's getting $6.5 shouldn't Mats get $4+? Kreider dragged his heels signing his first contract so I don't think he'll be any easier this time around, $3 mil+? Glen deals from a position of weakness if he agrees to Cally's folly. He should hold at the more than generous offer he's already made.

 

Just look at the names i posted who's salaries in excess of 6 million... none of those trends would trade straight up for as he is in their league

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Callahan is a winning player. However, that was probably the first or at best, second game he's played this season where he was dominant. You don't pay players like him 6 million a year. I'm stunned Sather offered him that much. Essentially, he probably figured, replace Richard's dumb contract with a slightly less dumb contract with a younger player.

 

Players are worth what a team is willing to give them. A particular player might be worth more to one team than another, depending on their situation. I personally don't think Cally is a 6 mil/year player, but based on what he has meant to this team in many ways, I'd have no problem at 6 or 6.3 for 5 years. Every year we're shocked by what players actually get in free agency. What he's asking for is nuts for most teams, but I could see Buffalo doing it. To them, bringing in a needed leader with his work ethic, and maybe filling some seats as the returning hometown hero might be worth it for them. Wouldn't be for us or probably any other team. I couldn't blame Cally for taking it or Buffalo for offering it. I'd say thanks for the memories and good luck.

 

ill never blame a player to get as much as he can for as long as he can. but in the age of the salary cap and trying to build a championship team that is not a one shot wonder you have to think about dollars and sense...is it sensiable to sign a player that will not score 30 goals a year to such a contract that would/could prevent making moves for other players that are more talented.

also this sets a precedence to others of similar skill level to cash in

 

Totally agree. If it were any one of us or one of our children, we'd do exactly the same. Get all you can. I agree this would be a bad deal for the Rangers and wouldn't go much higher than what they've offered. I could also see it being worth it to Buffalo to come close to what he wants. They are in a different situation.

 

Can't wait for this cally-opera to end.

 

When you look at other players with similar ages who have similar contracts to what Cally is asking for the closest comparison is probably Patrice Bergeron.

But even Bergeron is better defensively (widely considered the best defensive fwd in the game) and at least Bergeron has 2 70+ point seasons.

Cally's contract demands are silly.

What people in support of Cally will say is Sather is going to spend $7m a year on somebody so it might as well be Cally but that logic is stupid.

 

If cally gets that contract 7 yrs 6.8 does he become the highest paid 3rd line player never to score 30 goals in hockey history?

 

Like I said, to me it is all relative. If even one team would give Cally this huge deal you can say he is "worth that much", it only takes one. So from that POV I agree.

Where I get on Cally though is just be fair. He is NOT that type of player. Not a 6.5 to 7 mill per cap hit player. He is not even a 6 mill per player. If the Rangers offered that much he should have jumped and this discussion shouldn't even be happening.

I do not begrudge Cally if he is about the money and wants the most he can get no matter which team it is from, good for him and fully his right. But don't on the flip side say all I want to do is win and be a New York Ranger, because that is not true if he goes for this huge mega deal we will not match. Just say it is/was about the money and we move on.

Like I said, I do think this gets done still, but we pay more than we wanted to. Most likely close to 6 mill per season cap hit wise, and that is too much, but so be it I guess. Wish he could have taken 5.5 or so and been happy to make a ton of money and be a Ranger rather than needing to break the bank.

Oh well...

 

give it to him on 1 condition, that he has to score 2 goals a game, if he doesn't, contract canceled!

 

No progress has been made over the past two days towards finding a match between the Rangers and Ryan Callahan on a contract extension. (NY Post)

The gap between the two sides is “as substantial as ever.” (NY Post)

The only teams interested in acquiring Callahan would be to do so on a rental basis. (NY Post)

Glen Sather remains determined to get something for Callahan rather than letting him walk as a free agent but he has not receiving an offer yet that would be worth trading him for. (NY Post)

There has been “no significant developments” with the Ryan Callahan situation. (Katie Strang)

There has been no progress towards resolving the contract impasse between the Rangers and Ryan Callahan. (Larry Brooks)

There is little chance of a trade by tomorrow’s Olympic trade freeze. (Larry Brooks)

 

This is dragging into march god damn it and either Sather pays the ransom money (Please god no) or we get a bag of balls for him at the trade deadline. Very depressing.