trade deadline rumors

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  1. bullsger

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    http://sports.yahoo.com/news/nba-trade-rumors-phoenix-suns-sour-gasol-set-163000776--nba.html

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    Shumpert is terrible. He'd be a $2.6M cap hit for next season. I suppose we'd play Dunleavy all 48 minutes.

    Felton is a 6'1" PG, a 6'1" version of Eddy Curry. Guy eats lots of donuts. Still heaps better than Kirk.

    The front court of Melo, Noah, and Taj would be solid. A backcourt of Rose and DJ would be kinda small.

    Shumpert is our kind of guy. All defense, no offense. Maybe he'd play SG?
     
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    I have been reading about the Melo rumor. Interesting!!

    The Boozer for Okafor has been discussed earlier in the season. `I guess it still is on the table.

    About the Melo trade. Felton is a better back up than Hinrich is. And Shumpert, well we need someone that can take the sting away from losing Butler's defense.
     
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    According to many I've read, if the Bulls can end up with Rose, Anthony and Noah, they don't care what the rest of the roster looks like.


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    Rose-Anthony-Noah and we keep Gibson?

    Without breaking out the spreadsheets and dialing up larrycoon.com, that's a godsend. Of course, that's the big consideration.

    But yah, if the Knicks want to do that, do it.

    Felton, Shumpert, Hinrich, Snell, who cares. You can replace role players. You need the impact players.
     
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    I really would be surprised if the Bulls do the Knicks trade before the deadline.

    But I would like it.

    Rose-Anthony-Noah-Gibson sounds good.
     
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    What are the chances NY makes it easier for Melo to leave? They gave up a slew of first rounders for him. All you can really offer them is draft picks, and they don't even really value those except as trade assets.
     
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    Assuming Boozer's amnestied, the Bulls have 6 players under contract for next season (Rose, Noah, Gibson, Dunleavy, Butler and Snell) plus an unavoidable cap charge of $333,334 for a salary total of $46.2mil. This is $15.8mil under the $62mil salary cap many are projecting for next season. This doesn't include the first year salary(ies) for draftee(s), the $1.08 Mirotic cap hold or other cap holds.

    If Anthony's going to demand $22mil, one of Rose, Noah or Gibson will have to go. I have no idea how the Bulls can add both Anthony and Mirotic this offseason.
     
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    Fwiw, Okafor for Boozer is supposed to be on the table. You say the Bulls would deal Boozer for an expiring, if they could. But they're not pulling that trigger.

    Rather, it seems the Bulls may be waiting for the Knicks to sift through their trade deadline options for Melo first.

    Boozer's not playing. An injury would kill his trade value. He may already have played his last game for us.

    Boozer and Taj for Melo works at the deadline. Or some other Boozer-plus for Melo. But I think that might be wishful thinking.

    That would leave the Bulls with the MLE to use for Mirotic, no?
     
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    Both of those trades sound fine to me, but I'm scratching my head figuring out why the other team does them.

    For trade #1.....what does Phoenix want to do with Boozer? He seems like a terrible fit for them. Taj would be a great fit. Shedding Boozer for Okafor would leave this team dangerously thin in the frontcourt. I'm not sure Thibs himself thinks he can get away with playing Taj and Noah 40+ minutes a game.

    The NY trade seems so lopsided in our favor that I have no idea why NY would do it. They're essentially trading Melo for spare parts. I'd rather just hang on to him and dare him to leave. It'd be about as impactful as that trade (which does work on ESPN trade machine, btw).
     
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    Phoenix is a surprise team in the tough West. Boozer is a guy who could get them 15 points and 8 rebounds in 24 minutes. That's way more than Okafor gives them.

    The shorter answer is he makes the team better (ours, too).

    Knicks? They gave up a ton to get Melo, but he can opt out this summer and walk for nothing in return. I don't think Boozer+Taj gets a deal done, just makes the salaries work. We would almost certainly be coughing up a few picks to make the deal more fair.

    The other deal gets them three rotation players, and Kirk is an expiring. Jimmy is actually pretty good, and Snell is a real contributor as a rookie. Boozer would play a LOT of minutes for them at both PF and C.
     
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    "Supposed to be on the table?" According to who? All I've seen is writers like Chad Ford saying that he doesn't know anything concrete, but that Phoenix could use a PF and have an expiring in Okafor. That doesn't even qualify as an unsubstantiated rumor much less constitute an offer on a table.

    There is no trigger to pull.
     
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    I read the rumor about the time Rose was lost, and since, and now Ford and other sources. Phoenix' first choice is Pau Gasol, but the Lakers want 1st round pick, maybe more.

    What's wrong with saying "supposed to" when it comes to multiple sourced rumors that make sense? I didn't say "beyond doubt" or imply otherwise.
     
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    None of those guys are difference makers. The Jimmy Butlers and Tony Snell's of the world don't mean anything without a Carmelo or Derrick Rose to play with. If the Knicks are going to lose Melo I'd guess they'll want to hit the "Reset" button and not stay in the luxury tax because of Carlos Freakin' Boozer.

    Again, the quoted Melo trade sounds like manna from heaven to me, so I doubt it happens.

    My prognosis on a Melo trade is very similar to Transplant's: The Bulls want him and will try to get him, but ultimately don't want him enough to give up what'd be necessary.

    I think Melo's staying put.
     
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    I think Melo is staying put as well.

    The wife wants to stay in NYC.

    The Knicks want to keep him.

    There isn't really a compelling reason to leave.

    Melo doesn't seem to be like a guy that is dying to be a NBA champion. The guy hasn't won squat in the NBA and he just doesn't seem to have the crazy drive needed to.

    Better to collect those fat checks, live where he and his wife want to live and have your cool Jordan show commercials in the biggest market in the land.

    He'll try to ring collect perhaps later in life. If he even wants to.
     
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    Deadline deal unlikely for Bulls

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    If "great players" change teams, someone thinks we are fools to believe his BS.
     
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    Boozer was told today he will not be traded at the deadline, nor will he be amnestied next season or traded. Unless for a superstar. TNT people told us during the first quarter of the Nets/Bulls game
     
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