So, is CJ McCollum again out of the main rotation?

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  1. shamelessblazer

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    I think there are a lot of options to throw out next to CJ in the b/u backcourt, b/c we're fairly undefined at the "1" and "3."

    CJ brings a shooting threat, can handle, and is not good at D or distributing yet.
    I think you need a guy who can distribute, one who plays great defense, and you want 2 of the three to be shooters.

    So you could bring in another handler who plays D at the 1 and a shooter at the 3, or a guy who can shoot and play D at 1 and a distributor at 3, etc.

    I think Shumpert and Vince Carter would be nice for next year.
    Or Tony Allen and a shooter at 1 (you might want to get another big who can shoot in that instance, say someone like Frye or Hawes)
    Etc

    But CJ does seem to have NBA game.

    The other option is spending a bit more on a jack of all trades/6th starter at 2/3 who can play D, handle the ball well, and shoot. Then give him 30 mpg and CJ gets all the b/u 1 minutes. Not sure who that would be at the moment though.
     
  2. PtldPlatypus

    PtldPlatypus Let's go Baby Blazers! Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

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    Greivis Vasquez is the guy I'd like to see brought in here in the offseason.
     
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    Why do people like Shumpert? Serious question. Every time I've seen him he's looked plain awful.
     
  4. shamelessblazer

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    +1, He'd be a great fit next to CJ and getting Robinson some easy buckets.
     
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    I think its just the New York factor. Their mediocre prospects get way overhyped simply because they're semi-productive young players that play for the Knicks. Shump isn't garbage, but I don't think he even projects as a starter. Don't think any NBA teams are fooled, but that didn't stop the Knicks from trying to swing a trade centering around Shump that gets them a legit starter.
     
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    Great Post. My thoughts exactly. Bigger PG (6'6") who can guard the SG spot and play with Dame.
     
  7. BigGameDamian

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    Well that's to bad if it is a game by game decision now, Don't you expect top ten picks to be apart of the rotation? I mean that's why you draft them in the lottery. If he isn't part of the rotation I'd be raising my eyebrow.
     
  8. KeepOnRollin

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    At least CJ gets some burn at times when the whole team is healthy. Leonard is a top 11 pick who can only get on the floor when guys are hurt.
     
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    i like him because he's a 6'6" combo guard who can defend his position well. He's definitely in a major slump this year but I attribute that more to terrible PG play and the general mess the Knicks are this year. Shump just said a couple days ago he enjoyed rehabbing from his ACL tear more than playing for the Knicks this year lol He's been really unhappy with his role on the team and Woodson's coaching job
     
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    Darren Collison? He'd start for them because they have Fatty Felton there currently, but I don't how much of a "legit starter" he is league wide.
     
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    Ya and we could have had Jeremy Lamb.
     
  12. GrandpaBlaze

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    Only if their play merits being a part of the rotation. I would imagine there are more top ten busts than there are top ten rotation players.

    Gramps...
     
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    We could have had Taj Gibson over Victor Claver. You can say a similar thing about any draft.
     
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    Before very recently, you basically had an 8-man rotation. Two of those players in Mo and CJ are undersized SGs who like the ball in their hands but aren't really PGs. I wish one of these days Barton could figure it out because he gives the backcourt some length so we are not always so undersized.

    Will is pure joy to watch at times (how fun was last night) but then he will go into 'wacky decision mode' that keeps him from being in the rotation although that is better this year than last year.

    He, like Robinson, is a dervish of energy and if that could be channeled for good, they would be awesome to have coming off the bench on a nightly basis.

    :matrix:
     
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    I hate to keep saying this, but I think like most of the young players on our bench, it can't happen until they get consistent playing time. But I agree Will gives us something we need. They will have to choose between him and Crabbes this summer as Will's qualifying offer is due. One needs to stay to go along with Wes and CJ. Both of them is redundant.
     
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    very well said Tpup! I think Will can morph into a pt guard with length. He needs minutes to really come into his own and get his confidence up
     
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    Do players really morph into PG's? I don't think they do. They either are or they are not. I just praised Will, but that was as a SG with handles and length and defensive capabilities. But his decision making has yet to reach SG potential, let alone PG decision making. I don't even think CJ can morph into a PG. They are both fine as SGs.
     
  18. riverman

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    These guys are just getting started, I believe they can. Stotts said he was interested in having Will try the point last season because of his length and ability to drive the lane. Distributing takes time to become second nature and without that time in real games, these guys like Will are going to be cold at first. How many guys played the 5 in college and morph into SF or PF after they are drafted? I'm not at all worried about the point guard position on this roster. We have several guys that can bring the ball up and distribute. Batum could morph into a pt guard if he wanted to. Becoming a better passer just takes repitition
     
  19. PapaG

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    With Lin's contract, they may not have a choice on who they keep, unless they want to overpay for 2 PGs.
     
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    It must suck to be Houston, where you're actually starting a point guard you can't afford to keep, and benching the point guard you can't afford.
     

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