Is Michael Sam setting up for a lawsuit?

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  1. BlazerDuckSeahawkFan94

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    Possibly. However, Chip hates the media and I don't know if he would want the storm that would descend upon him if he drafted the first openly gay player ever.

    Cooper just was drunk and went full retard and his teammates excepted his apology.
     
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    Hmm...possible, but it seems unlikely. This would be a very hard case to win, and the NFL is loaded with dough. I doubt any decent lawyer would take this on for free, meaning he'd be spending his own money to fight a losing battle.
     
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    I wonder. The last thing the NFL wants is to be accused of homophobia. They're a PR driven league. Each team would pony up $100K, which is chump change, and the kids gets a cool few million. Mission accomplished.
     
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    There doesn't seem to be any substantial reason for the NFL to be held liable and to assume Michael Sam has nefarious intents is boarding on prejudice. The only gain I see that he could get from this (besides an NFL career) is to become famous for being gay and becoming somewhat of a poster boy, which in itself could lead to other opportunities outside of an NFL career. Other than that, Im sure he is just trying to further the liberal gay agenda.
     
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    i think it is more likely that johnny manziel will sue the nfl at some point
     
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    Not. Because the media would cover the story anyway. Settling would be like an admission of guilt.
     
  8. BLAZER PROPHET

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    True. But the lawsuit hangs a label on the NFL. So a behind the scenes threat and he gets paid.

    Legal extortion.
     
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    First, in 39 states it is entirely legal to fire/refuse to hire a person because of his/her actual or perceived sexual orientation. So even if he could legally prove that, say, Dallas did not draft him because he is gay, he'd have no case since that is legal in Texas, and there are no federal laws prohibiting discrimination based on sexual orientation. To sue the NFL he would have to prove that the NFL as an organization discriminated against him by blocking his being drafted by all 30 teams because he is gay. The burden of proof in discrimination complaints is entirely on the plaintiff, who must legally prove not only that he/she was discriminated against, but that such discrimination was illegal AND that it was deliberate. Simply saying he was drafted late or not at all because he is gay would not prove it was deliberate discrimination, he'd have to show each team individually or the NFL collectively made a deliberate decision - and the teams could just say well, Player X was a better fit. Smart would have to prove otherwise. Damn near impossible.

    I'd say those who speculate that Michael Sam is planning a lawsuit are simply not very well acquainted with anti discrimination laws, especially anti discrimination laws pertaining to sexual orientation. Not only would Sam be poison with every NFL team, he'd have very little chance of winning such a suit. That's just the way the law is written.

    I still say he just wants to play football and not live a lie every day of his life the way other male athletes have had to do.
     
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    Maybe he just wants to be sure if the NFL thing doesn't work out he can play in the lingerie bowl?
     
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    The appropriate pronoun is they, not he.
     
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    No, Michael Sam is a single person who self identifies and presents as male so is properly called he. I doubt he'd look good in lingerie and he has expressed no interest in wearing it.

    But good illustration of bigotry and bullshit, why am I not suprised?
     
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    For my lingerie joke it's cause you have no sense of humor. Is joking only ok when it offends either no one or strictly conservative straight white Christian males?
     
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    I think he came out so that he could get groupies. We may not like the same sex partners but he is still a man and having tons of groupies can only be a good thing. If not for HIV he would have it made in the shade. Dudes can't get pregnant.

    I can tell you this. The locker room thing makes me wonder. If I showered with a womens volleyball team I couldn't handle it. How does he do it? Maybe he learned to control it from a young age.
     
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    I doubt that is why he came out but it is a bonus.
     
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    I have a sense of humor, it's just that SlyPokerDog is not funny.

    It is possible to have a joke that does not involve insulting someone.

    And I seriously doubt Sam wants a lawsuit, his presser at the Combine indicates he just wants to play football.

    Yes, he most probably will attact attention from gay male groupies. Not sure if he wants it or not. He's a big boy, he can take care of himself, I'm sure!
     
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    I just want to be non-gender specific in any pronoun I use from this point forward. They will be happy, because nobody will potentially be offended.
     
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    But I think few NFL fans would really take that charge seriously. What the NFL should take seriously is the Jonathan Martin case, if they want to show their stance against discrimination. I don't know if he is gay but they should take the same stance against that kind of behavior that any workplace should.
     
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    Michael Sam had a disastrous combine. Now I don't think he will be drafted at all.
     
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    In todays sports section of USA Today, Sam is already insinuating his rapidly dropping value for the draft (apparent after a poor combine showing...) has nothing to do with his football ability and that he is being judged by his sexual orientation.

    So I do wonder if this isn't a set-up for a behind the scenes payoff under threat of a lawsuit. We will probably never know.
     

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