Kesler wants out of Vancouver.

Would we do Stepan, 1st and say Fast for Kesler and maybe a pick/prospect?

 

Trading Stepan for Kesler is beyond stupid. Stepan is much younger, is more of a playmaker which we still need on this team and hasn't had some major injuries like Kesler has. I wouldn't offer anything more than a package of Callahan, Allen and Kristo. Nothing more. I think Kesler is another guy who is getting old fast.

 

Kesler is 29, he isn't that old. He has scored 70+ points twice and had a 40 goal season. He is bigger than Stepan and plays MUCH bigger. I like Stepan but I think he is what he is: a good 20 goal 40 pt playmaking center. Kesler even though he is 5 years older has more upside IMO. Kesler is also signed for 2 more seasons at a $5m cap hit. Find another 29 year old forward who has his size, 2 70+ pt seasons and a 40 goal season at a 5m cap hit that is available. For his style he has also been pretty durable. He only really missed last year, previous seasons are 77-82 games every year.

I agree that Cally has no interest in playing in Vancouver for Torts. Vancouver needs to start bringing in new talent. They are not going to move their biggest trade asset for a rental and spare parts.

 

You don't trade a 23 year old center for a 29 year old center who has had major injury issues. It's stupid. Kesler isn't the player he was 4 years ago. He's getting old fast. Drury was washed up at about 31. I see the same for Kesler.

 

Disagree on Drury. They are also different players Dump. You could argue Drury had his BEST seasons 29-31 (he was 31 when he signed in NY). When he was 29 he was playing at a high level for Buffalo and Drury is closer to Callahan in style then Kesler. Drury is 5'10 and played like he was 6'3 (see Cally). Kesler is actually close to 6'3.

I get its dangerous to trade cheaper younger players but our window to win is the next 3 years. Stepan might prove me wrong and become a 70 pt guy. I don't think he will and I will take the chance with Kesler.

Kreider-Kesler-Nash. OMG, size speed and skill.

 

Gartner dude....hahaha. I forgot about that guy. He was responsible for the board meltdowns before DDD. Man that was a long time ago

 

Yeah 31 I am trying to think back to some of his posts

He had all these comparisons of our players to other HOF players and said them as absolutes.

To his credit he hated Richards and didn't want us to sign him.....It was good stuff, I would love to hear what his other predictions were

 

I am with Dis on this. You CANNOT let Stepan be the reason you don't deal for a player like Kesler. I also read the Pens are making a push for him.

We should go all in for Kesler. He doesn't make a lot of money. Is signed for the next two seasons. Plays next season at 30.

Stepan MAY get to 60 points, Kesler is a better play no doubt IMO.

Stepan, a decent prospect (NOT a top one), and a pick (maybe a 2nd or 3rd). That is what I would offer. That would be a great move for us IMO.

I still say all these rumors are just rumors. I'll believe these big names move when I see it.

But regardless of big names, Sather better do something. If we sit tight I will be pissed just like two years ago.

 

I was a huge Kesler fan. However, he's not what he was. He's still a real good player but I don't see him being a force at 32. Stepan will be 26 then. I'll keep him.

 

I know alot of posters didn't like him, I didn't really have issues with the guy but he did have an air of conceit in his posts alot. He and Dump(shock)used to butt heads alot I remember.lol

 

The question is would you rather give up Miller or a late 1st with Stepan, that's where I'm torn.

 

Like Dump, I was high on Stepan after last year but I think he is what he is....a good 2C, not great. He is a 20 goal 60 pt guy who is good defensively but isn't very big and disappears for LONG stretches.

To each his own but I will take Kesler over him despite the ages especially when our franchise goalie is 32

 

I don't agree. Lundqvist will be 34 and most of our young players will all be 25 to 30 then. That's when most teams win cups. You don't see a ton of young teams winning cups. Most cup winning teams have lots of players 25 to 30.

 

I would NOT deal Stepan AND Miller for Kesler, that is too much.

To me it is simple really. The next two seasons we need to be all in to win. Sure at 34, 35, 36 Hank could still be very good, but this is his prime. This is Nash's prime. McDonagh should be complete over that timeframe. Staal still very good. Girardi still very good.

This is the time for the Rangers. The next two seasons. We have the cap space and will be losing a lot of dead weight this summer. This is the time.

As is we may be the 3rd best team in the East right now, in that mix with 3 or so other teams, but clearly behind the big 2. We need to close that gap and be at the top the next few seasons. This is our window.

 

Yep - I only trade Stepan, that is more then enough. I love Kesler but Dump is right in the regard that he has some risk.

Bold moves are needed over the next couple years. It doesn't have to happen now but over the next 2 years yes. Kesler has tremendous upside even if he is a 60 pt guy now and never sniffs 40/70.

Kesler-Kreider-Nash is a line that has not just size and speed but is VERY tough to play against and that is what you need in the playoffs

 

too bad we gave up on Del Zerro otherwise we could have used him plus a pick, miller to get Kesler, im sure torts would have loved to have DZ back on his squad lmfao