Lillard: "Who is Canzano??"

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  1. 1honestfan

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    I get that blazer fans here don't like Canzano; I 100% get it. I have zero problem with what he wrote.

    I don't by that Lillard didn't actually know who Canzano was as it's not a far fetched thought to believe that ALL NBA players read the local media, especially ones who are trying to build a brand like Lillard is. When Lillard posted that, he knew full we that it was going to get a reaction from Canzano. I love Lillard and he's progressing nicely but at least Canzano was man enough to walk up to him and introduce himself. I also have zero problem with Canzano writing that Lillard needs to improve his defense as that is a known issue. I also have zero problem with him pondering the intentions of the blazers retiring more numbers when the production on the court or success on the court hasn't warranted it. What Canzano wrote was fair but I get that certain fans HATE him and so they will not give ANY credit to Canzano's work. I believe that we are not all going to like the same people but I would think that you can still respect their work.

    At the end of the day, only one thing counts and that is wins. JUST WIN BABY as winning cures all wounds.
     
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    With all due respect, I see the parallel you're trying to make here and I just don't think it fits.

    So people who die, or get sick, or face adversity is fluff? A person who starts a non-profit to raise funds for schools activities is fluff?

    Come'on man? Would you have known about those people unless Canzano had written about them? Did those articles bring have any benefits to those people that he wrote about?

    I am not saying that Canzano is the worlds best person, a saint, or even someone you would want to hang out with but I just don't see the need for everyone to trash him but to each their own.

    The Blazers are a business and they write fluff articles that are not accurate and are only designed to create more hype around the team to generate more money...... Sure, Canzano writes to make money for the Oregonian but I think that's where the comparing stops. just my opinion though.
     
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  3. BBert

    BBert Weasels Ripped My Flesh

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    1honestfan: I disagree with everything you wrote. No one dislikes Canzano just to dislike him. Multiple people have explained to you their disdain for Canzano's act, how it is disingenuous, and the reasons they "dislike him". Your writing shows that you either cannot or refuse to understand where those people are coming from. Neither of us are changing our view on the matter. Have a nice day.
     
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    I respect yours as well as others opinions. No worries, it's all good. :-)
     
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    Canzano spent two days on the radio harping about Lillard and the fans who like Lillard. Many people where asking Lillard on twitter if he was hearing what Canzano was saying about him. That's why Lillard sent that tweet.

    "Who is John canzano and why do ppl keep mentioning him to me"

    Sorry to disappoint you but no, the majority of athletes don't obsess over every word spoken or written about them. Why would he know or care who John Canzano is? Even by Canzano's own admission today he is a columnist, not a reporter.

    This offers a good time to talk about the "Comment" section of oregonlive.com and also, about my role as a columnist.


    I am a sports columnist. The experiences, opinions, viewpoints, and the context to which I bring to the piece are mine. Therefore, the column typically IS about my experience. I covered Bob Knight. I covered Tark. I felt both of these things were relevant in shaping my thoughts on Majerus, and how he was interested when we met in the airport many years ago to ask questions about those two coaches.

    Those three cast huge shadows.

    When I write about the Blazers, I'm writing what I think. When I'm writing about the Ducks offense, I'm writing about what I see. When I'm writing about Oregon State, I'm writing about what I think.

    I'm long over being surprised that a few readers don't understand the difference between a reporter who covers a beat and a columnist, employed to share his/her opinions, analysis and viewpoint. Further, I love that people read, offer dissenting opinions, their own analysis and viewpoints.

    http://www.oregonlive.com/sports/or...f/2014/03/canzano_the_comment_section_ca.html


    So by Canzano's own admission that he waited for Lillard to introduce himself and by what he just wrote that he is a columnist. Not a reporter means that Canzano is not one of the 10+ people a night who hang around his locker after games and "report" on what he did in the game and what he says about it. It's pretty clear by those two things that Lillard didn't know who Canzano was.

    And because of that Canzano insults Lillard and says he's passive aggressive?!? Lillard didn't take shots at him or people like you who love Canzano. All he did was reply to many people who were asking him if they heard what Canzano was saying about him.

    Also show me a link where anyone from the Blazers are thinking about retiring more numbers. If there is one I sure missed it.

    You and Canzano are trying hard to make it sound like it's Lillard, the Blazers and us fans are the ones trying to stir the pot and Canzano is just some poor misunderstood innocent victim in all of this.

    And that right there is why so many of us don't like the guy and why we are disagreeing with your support of him.
     
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    Agreed lillard wasn't being passive aggressive, slypokerdog was when he posted the tweet. I hope crapzano tries to make fun of slypokerdog's doggy breathe next. He should consider it because the longer slypokerdog has a one up on him the more credibility he's losing.
     
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    Hahahahahahaha! Rep'd!
     
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    Great Post.
     
  9. 1honestfan

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    I don't mind people disagreeing with me. I have zero problem with someone even educating me on something that I either forgot or didn't know. I am not here to change people's opinions as much as I'm here to give my opinion. I will admit that it's "Easy" to want to hate Canzano when you "Want" to love the Blazers. I love the Blazers but have zero problem calling them out higher.
     
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    Nice..... I see what you did there. LOL
     
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    HonestFan, were you on the ESPN board? What was your name?
     
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    jlprk The ESPN mod is insane.

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    I was jlprk about a fourth of the time. A couple of months in, after my first ban, I created a dozen names. You have to be sneaky there to survive.
     
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    I thought your SN looked familiar. I went by another name until I changed it to this one. One hint, if you look back at my first post then you can put my first and last name together and add a 44 to it. I saw that no one else was using their real name so I changed it to this.
     
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    You started about when I left (see date at left). You became opponents with, wasn't it the guy who had UW in his name on the Sonic board, but kept changing his name everytime he was banned. When the Sonics died he became a Blazer fan.
     
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    Well the very short story is "YES".

    I like/liked UWBlazers but once you crossed him then there was never moving past that point; right, wrong, or indifferent. That dude would hold a grudge. You are correct when you say that I need to incorporate more humor into my posts and I do consciously try. I love the Blazers and have so since 1974 but sometimes I think people get confused with where I am coming from. I will always be a Blazer fan but I don't think that they are beyond approach.

    I actually didn't know that UWBlazers changed his screen name after the Sonics dissolved.

    He got mad at me during a Portland versus Dallas thread when I said that McMillan sucked as a coach and we were going to be beat 4-2. He thought I wasn't a fan because I didn't hold the company line.
     
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    jlprk The ESPN mod is insane.

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    On the Sonics board he went up to at least UWBlazers34, hitting every number. He was banned more than 34 times because he also tried other names, but fooled no one due to his iconic style.

    How was he different from BlazerFanatic?
     
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    HUGE DIFFERENCE.

    UWBlazers would make things personal when he decided he liked you or didn't like you and there was just no two ways about it. Again, I actually like UWBlazers if he could get passed that BS. BF is a very well educated writer but she would just dig in and then insult everyone on every position unless they 100% agreed with her. She just had one way of looking at things and that was that, as memory serves me.

    I like to think that I can find good in people just as much as I can find fault. Don't we all have our own faults? Don't we have good in us as well?

    However, I want to thank-you for helping me work on my humor.....

    BBBAAAAAAAAAMMMMMMMMMMMMMMOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

    Damn, I did it again.....

    lol.
     
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    I'm long over being surprised that Canzano doesn't understand the difference between people that think he's a hack job (and his opinions are often so far different than everyone else's we cannot understand where he is coming from) and people that don't understand what it is a columnist does, employed to share his/her opinions, analysis and viewpoint.

    Generally, if people are reading Canzano, they are at least somewhat educated. We get what you are, John. You're a pot-stirrer. You take a lot of shots. Your viewpoints are so different from everyone else's that there often seems more to your viewpoints than meets the eye. Your job is to sell papers. Controversy sells. So, yeah. It's not that people don't understand what your job is. It's that people understand you're terrible at it and they're telling you so. Don't get so bent out of shape that people are calling you out on your bullshit.
     
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    Are you posting this in all of the threads?
     

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