1. Kobe Bryant2. LeBron James3. Dwyane Wade4. Dirk Nowitzki5. Steve Nash6Allen Iverson7. Elton Brand8. Gilbert Arenas9. Tim Duncan10. Paul Pierce11. Tracy McGrady12. Carmel Anthony13. Kevin Garnett14. Chauncey Billups15. Shawn Marionyours?
1.)Kobe Bryant2.)LeBron James3.)Dwyane Wade4.)Steve Nash5.)Tim Duncan6.)Kevin Garnett7.)Elton Brand8.)Gilbert Arenas9.)Paul Pierce10.)Jason Kidd11.)Allen Iverson12.)Chris Paul13.)Dirk Nowitzki14.)Carmelo Anthony15.)Pau Gasol
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Pinoy Balla @ Oct 27 2006, 05:06 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>1. Kobe Bryant2. LeBron James3. Dwyane Wade4. Dirk Nowitzki5. Steve Nash6Allen Iverson7. Elton Brand8. Gilbert Arenas9. Tim Duncan10. Paul Pierce11. Tracy McGrady12. Carmel Anthony13. Kevin Garnett14. Chauncey Billups15. Shawn Marionyours?</div>KG is way too low, Nash is a little high.1. Kobe2. Lebron3. DWade4. KG5. Dirk6. Tracy McGrady7. Iverson8. Duncan9. Steve Nash10. Paul Pierce11. Gilbert Arenas12. Elton Brand13. Shawn Marion14. Yao Ming15. Chris Bosh/Amare<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>15.)Pau Gasol</div>Way too high.
PinoyBalla, how did you manage to put Elton Brand 6 spots ahead of KG?1. Kobe Bryant2. Lebron James3. Dwyane Wade4. Kevin Garnett5. Dirk Nowitzki6. Tracy McGrady7. Allen Iverson8. Tim Duncan9. Shaquille O'Neal10. Steve Nash11. Elton Brand12. Paul Pierce13. Gilbert Arenas14. Shawn Marion15. Yao Ming
I honestly think KG is being overrated by a couple of you guys. Sure, he is a great player statistically, but he hasnt led his team deep in to the playoffs besides one season were he made it to the WCF. His supporting cast might be the greatest, but it hasnt been a whole lot worse than Kobe's and the Lakers made the playoffs last season. You would think that a player suppossivley that good would be in the playoffs every year...and get out of the first round more than like one time.
Pau is not way too high, he carries a franchise by himself. There is now team EVEN close to the playoffs that only has one star like Pau. If you think about it, every team (except maybe Raptors and Blazers) besides memphis has two potential all-stars. Pau was in a class with Paul Pierce with leading his team in points, assist, rebounds, and blocks(Pierce lead in steals, not blocks). Despite not winning playoff game, Pau has led a one star team to the playoffs 3 straight years. Hes extremely underrated and does alot more for his team than alotve other players in league.
1. Kobe Bryant- This guy has become the most dominant offensive player we have seen since MJ and is a very good perimeter defender also. He is clutch, can take over games, and proved he can lead a team to the playoffs without Shaq2. LeBron James- He averaged 31, 7, and 6.5 during the regular season and put up one of the most dominant seasons the leaue has ever seen from a 21 year old. Sure defense and clutchness might be an issue but he got more reliable in the clutch towards the end of the season and his defense can get better with age.3. Dwyane Wade- Sure he was incredible in the Finals but he had all te calls going his way whih did make his finals appearance slightly overrated. He is still an incredible player and if he could just get a better shot he would probably be ahead of Bron.4. Dirk Nowitzki- The guys is a constant threat from outside which really helps bring out defenders from the post. He is good for 26 and 9 which is great and is a true leader out there. 5. Allen Iverson- This will probably seem a little biased but after last season I can't leave him out of the top 5. He averaged 33 and 7.5 while shooting 45% from the field. He was just as tough as ever last season and had a career year in numbers. Not too mention this came from a 6' PG who is 31. Sure the Sixers didn't do well but the whole franchise and management is a mess and you can't put the blame on Iverson at all.6. Kevin Garnett- There's hardly anything KG can't do. He's freakishly athletic, a huge presence in the post, great rebounder and shot blocker, very good passer for his size , etc. Hopefully now with a little more help he can lead the Wolves back into the playoffs. 7. Gilbert Arenas- The guy definetly became a superstar in the league last season. He averaged almost 30 ppg and 6.5 apg while leading an average team into the playoffs. He has a very complete scoring game and is still yuong and will improve.8. Tim Duncan- He is still one of the most dominant big men in the league and a true leader out there for the Spurs. Duncan is getting older though and he showed a bit of decline in his game last season nd that why I have him ranked a little low.9. Chauncey Billups- One of the most versatile Point Guards in the league. He is a very underrated scorer imo, a great passer and playmaker, good bball IQ, very clutch, can take over games, true leader, etc. 10. Elton Brand- Brand last season finally played like a super star last season. He averaged 25, 10, and 2.5 bpg while leading the Clippers-- a team that nobody expected to do well-- into the WCSF. Became one of the best big men in the league last season.11. Steve Nash- He's not one of the most talented and athletic players in the league but Nash knows the game and is the best in the league at making players around him better. 12. Tracy Mcgrady- Talent wise Mcgrady is one of the best in the game but honestly after last season I just can't be sure how healthy he will be. Yeah he's really healthy right now but who knows if he has another back problem again. 13. Shaquille O'Neal- Anyone mind telling me how he isn't top 15 still? Sure were seeing a decline in his game but he's still dominant old Shaq. He's still good for 20 and 10 a night and still is the most dominant C in the league. His post presence he brings to you is huge and he has found success almost all of his career.(nvm atleast CB4 has him n his list)14. Paul Pierce- He is one of the most consistant guards in the NBA and is very underappreciated imo. He is a great scorer, solid defender, and a good rebounder for a guard. 15. Chris Bosh- Finally broke out last season and had a great season at that. Bosh is becoming a top big man in the league and is improving every season. He was good for 22, 9 last season. He has a pretty good all around game for a big man and is starting to get the players he needs built around him.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (austingriz76 @ Oct 27 2006, 05:29 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Pau is not way too high, he carries a franchise by himself. There is now team EVEN close to the playoffs that only has one star like Pau. If you think about it, every team (except maybe Raptors and Blazers) besides memphis has two potential all-stars. Pau was in a class with Paul Pierce with leading his team in points, assist, rebounds, and blocks(Pierce lead in steals, not blocks). Despite not winning playoff game, Pau has led a one star team to the playoffs 3 straight years. Hes extremely underrated and does alot more for his team than alotve other players in league.</div>So you don't think your biased by being a Grizzly fan? But as far as I'm concerned, Yao Ming is better than Pau.
1. Kobe Bryant2. LeBron James3. Dwyane Wade4. Dirk Nowitzki5. Kevin Garnett6. Tracy McGrady7. Allen Iverson8. Tim Duncan9. Steve Nash10. Paul Pierce11. Elton Brand12. Carmelo Anthony13. Shawn Marion14. Yao Ming15. Chris Bosh
1 - Lebron2 - Nash3 - Wade4 - Kobe (for talent, not winning)5 - Dirk6 - Iverson7 - Duncan8 - Garnett9 - McGrady10 - Gilbert Arenas11 - Kidd12 - Shaq13 - Bosh14 - Yao15 - Carmelo
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (SunnyD @ Oct 28 2006, 08:56 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>So you don't think your biased by being a Grizzly fan? But as far as I'm concerned, Yao Ming is better than Pau.</div>Maybe a little bit, but seeing him for that past seasons, he helps Memphis alot more than Ming helps Houston. If Pau was the sidekick to Tmac, memphis wouldve been in Finals.
1. Kobe Bryant2. LeBron James3. Dwyane Wade4. Dirk Nowitzki5. Tim Duncan6. Allen Iverson7. Kevin Garnett8. Tracy McGrady9. Steve Nash10. Paul Peirce11. Gilbert Arenas12. Elton Brand13. Yao Ming14. Shawn Marion15. Carmelo Anthony
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (dsounG @ Oct 28 2006, 11:18 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>1. Kobe Bryant2. LeBron James3. Dwyane Wade4. Dirk Nowitzki5. Kevin Garnett6. Tracy McGrady7. Allen Iverson8. Tim Duncan9. Steve Nash10. Paul Pierce11. Elton Brand12. Carmelo Anthony13. Shawn Marion14. Yao Ming15. Chris Bosh</div>I'm pretty much agreeing with dsounG's list. Looks quite well rounded and unbiased. I think I would switch T-Mac and Garnett, but no biggie. Great list. :happy0144:
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>PPG Pau Gasol 20.4 RPG Pau Gasol 8.9 APG Pau Gasol 4.6 SPG Eddie Jones 1.75 BPG Pau Gasol 1.91</div> Thats what he did last year....only 2 other players(I think) did that much for their team.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (austingriz76 @ Oct 28 2006, 12:12 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Thats what he did last year....only 2 other players(I think) did that much for their team.</div>Yes, well the Grizz didn't exactly have PG or big man stability last year.
Uhhmm, we had always had a stable PG. When Damon went down we started Bobby Jackson, and then we got Chucky Atkins. And how many teams really have 2 good big men? Maybe Miami and Sacromento.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (austingriz76 @ Oct 28 2006, 12:18 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Uhhmm, we had always had a stable PG. When Damon went down we started Bobby Jackson, and then we got Chucky Atkins. And how many teams really have 2 good big men? Maybe Miami and Sacromento.</div>Um, first of all, Bobby Jackson is long since gone now. And chucky atkins sucks. Damon is a potential liability, so then what? Lowry? I suppose...
Chucky averaged 11ppg and 3apg.....1 assist away from Damons average...and Damon is fine just like I said earlier.
Yeah, so that proves it right there. A REAL PG would get at least 5 APG, if not more. Those guys are more shooting points.
Very few teams have true PG's.....yet, their big men dont average 5apg. Except Brad Miller of course and KG.
