15 questions evolutionists cannot adequately answer

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  1. maxiep

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    That's the glory of science, my friend. Since you say evolution is unable to be proven true, i assume you have absolute proof that God is the creator of the universe?
     
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    The Genesis flood: Where did all that water come from? Where did it go?

    How could the Genesis flood form the Grand Canyon?

    How do you explain the universally consistent radioactive dating results obtained with different radioactive elements, and the consistent correlation with objects of known age?

    What scientifically factual information can you supply to support your contention that the universe is only a few thousand years old?

    How do you explain the astronomical evidence that the universe is billions of years old, without resorting to the preposterous assumption that the speed of light was millions of times faster in the past than it is now?

    What mathematical proof can you supply, based on the known equations of thermodynamics, that order can not spontaneously arise from disorder?

    If your claim that thermodynamics will not permit the evolution of complex living structures is true, then how do you explain, without resorting to make-believe special mechanisms that have no basis in thermodynamics, the development of a chick in an egg?

    If creationism is scientifically valid, then why is it necessary to emphasize that the sectarian religious dogma of the Book of Genesis is the ultimate scientific authority?

    If you believe that God can override nature to create living things as described in the Book of Genesis, then what reasons do you have, other than your religious beliefs, that God could not have created living things through a process of evolution?

    The standard creationist explanation for the distribution of fossils in geological strata, with most primitive life forms in the lower strata, and mammals and humans in the upper strata, is that clever mankind was smart enough to climb to higher ground to escape the rising flood waters. How do you explain the fact that thousands of persons drowned in the recent Central America floods, in an area contiguous to higher ground? How do you explain the position of the fossils in the geologic layers, with small fossils below large fossils, which is contrary to hydraulic sorting in which large objects settle deeper than small objects?




    Care to answer these? :bgrin:
     
  4. Eastoff

    Eastoff But it was a beginning.

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    You lack a fundamental understanding of science which will prevent you from ever understanding why all but two of these statements are ignorant. At this point you're shouting the equivalent of "Why are my underpants white?! I just shit my pants, but the front is white!!! You can't explain that!!"
     
  5. Eastoff

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    The most easily accessible case made for evolution can be found here, skip to 13 minutes for actual debate:
    [video=youtube;z6kgvhG3AkI]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z6kgvhG3AkI#t=13m12s[/video]
     
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    Eastoff But it was a beginning.

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    There is a recent study about anti-vaccine parents that is relevant. here It says basically people who are wrong, and then are proven wrong, will cling to their beliefs harder if you make them feel dumb for being wrong. If you first fluff their ego, they are more likely to accept one of their fundamental ideas may have been completely off base.
     
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    We have observed speciation. Thus disproving one of these silly points claimed to be factual.

    The chicken growing inside the egg is clear proof there is no designer. The chicken forms from a single fertilized cell and the cells differentiate into beak, feathers, etc, as the cell divides and the chicken grows. No designer involved, period.

    So the gimmick seems to be to throw 15 bogus claims out there and if nobody provides the proof they are in error, then they must be factual? Uh.... No.
     
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    Why bother looking for answers when we can just pray on it?
     
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    it all boils down to adam and eve fucked their kids or something equally heinous, kinda gross dude

    and if we are doing carlin quotes

     
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    I was hoping there would be a banana involved.
     
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    Speaking as a Christian, the problem I have with these types of "questions science cannot answer" posts is the apparent disregard for the fact that "science" never claims to have all the answers; it is by definition a pursuit of understanding. Inability to answer questions yet does not necessarily invalidate a theory; suggesting that it does only makes the "asker" appear ignorant and arrogant.
     
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    That's been my point on this board, and others, for years. I find evolution to be much more plausible than 'creationism,' but I can never get over the fact that there aren't literally millions of genetic mutations in the fossil record. It always seems some big leap is made, as opposed to a gradual change, which is what you'd expect, with most of the mutations not be ideal for survival. Unless, of course, some unknown hand is guiding this always-positive idea of macro-evolution.
     
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    You haven't sat in on a biological evolution class lately, I take it.
     
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    Link?
     
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    http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/speciation.html

    Whenever the creation crowd challenges scientists to come up with an answer to some perceived hole in the fossil record, a fossil that answers the critics is eventually found.

    You do realize that a scientific theory is simply a WELL SUBSTANTIATED explanation for how/why something is the way it is. It is not some sort of uneducated guess.
     
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    I am going to respond to this thread. I'm in the process of moving back to Portland right now so I'm going to have a busy week and admittedly it can be very mentally taxing going 1 on 5 every time one of these discussions pops up, but I have strong opinions about this issue and I believe that truth is on my side. So when I find the time let's have a fun discussion and keep it civil.

    :cheers:
     
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    I think it's great to have personal truth, I truly do. Whatever gives you comfort in your process but it doesn't need to be a side. That's the glitch.
     
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    Your link is a nonprofit website in basic HTML format.

    You do realize that there is the a thing called the Scientific Method, RIGHT??? LOL
     
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    I asked dad about this, he just laughed and told me to go ask my mother.
     
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    http://www.talkorigins.org

    Talk.origins is a Usenet newsgroup devoted to the discussion and debate of biological and physical origins. Most discussions in the newsgroup center on the creation/evolution controversy, but other topics of discussion include the origin of life, geology, biology, catastrophism, cosmology and theology.

    The TalkOrigins Archive is a collection of articles and essays, most of which have appeared in talk.origins at one time or another. The primary reason for this archive's existence is to provide mainstream scientific responses to the many frequently asked questions (FAQs) that appear in the talk.origins newsgroup and the frequently rebutted assertions of those advocating intelligent design or other creationist pseudosciences.
     

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