15 questions evolutionists cannot adequately answer

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  1. MadeFromDust

    MadeFromDust Well-Known Member

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    I believe in evolution. Just not the hijacked theory of evolution that's taught by people that are committed to naturalistic materialism. Can you give me a single example of a positive mutation adding information to the genome? Also if you're from the church of "I don't f*cking know", how do you know the eye evolved underwater millions of years ago? Is it because your biology teacher told you? After all, you weren't there to observe it. Scientists are people like us and are not unbiased. But what is a fact is that we live in a world that hates God, so none of this in the academics surprises me in the least.
     
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    I can see you're not actually interesting in learning anything, so I'll quite wasting my time. Have fun!
     
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    MadeFromDust Well-Known Member

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    Are you just saying that because you have no answers to my questions? What's an example of a positive mutation adding information to the genome? Has this ever been tested or observed under the scientific method? (Observable/testable/repeatable)

    And no I don't have time to sit down and watch a documentary right now. I will be logging off in a while but I will be back and may give it a look :)
     
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    Exactly. There are a whole lotta miracles and unexplained circumstances, whether you believe in religion or in evolution, or some mix in-between (where I am). Either way, you're taking some sort of leap of faith and believing in things that aren't fully explained.
     
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    Do you even science?

    Mutations are what help evolution take place...
     
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    According to the theory of course, because that's the only conceivable way a change like that could possibly occur. That only problem though is we're talking about real life here.
     
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    That's not a new species, thought.
     
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    Cryptkeeper Forum Bourgeoisie Staff Member Global Moderator

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    It may become a new species if it survives and thrives better than 5-toed cats (as Denny already said)
     
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    Are there any references to these six-toed cats that are gonna be taking over the world soon? lol just kidding but really, I haven't heard much about them. Either way it's still a cat, and like Denny said we would have to wait millions of years to see if it would become anything other than a cat. Someone mentioned earlier about dog species, well that's kind of the same with cats. When the dog shows signs of evolving into anything but a dog then let me know, because that would be a real breakthrough. I believe in evolution, but I believe it has its limits. Even if Darwin's theory were true, I see no way the process could take place without a Creator. Information comes from an intelligent source, and DNA is a complex language and code for every living thing.
     
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    No, it's because of your response. So many of your comments in this thread are clearly questioning evolution itself, now you say you believe in it... Whatever.

    What do you mean by "adding information to the genome"? I assume you mean adding new genes? Gene duplication happens all the time. We know how insertion works. Homologous recombination. Retrotransposition. Errors in DNA replication. What's the point in questioning whether a mutation supplies new "information", instead of altering the information? Why do you think that's important? Sounds to me like your actually arguing about the origin of life, not evolution or mutations.

    You clearly do...
     
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    "You don't need a super hero to accomplish something great."

    What i mean is, we have so much proof that evolution is the origination of humanity and almost all other living things.

    Intelligent sources may have become intelligent by themselves, and DNA is a very complex code, but i want proof that this code was written by a Divine Creator.
     
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    I agree? lol
     
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    I edited it. Realized how vague that sounded.
     
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    I DO believe in evolution, and the fact that you think that's weird just proves my point even further. Evolution in society today has been turned into an ambiguous term that's usually only associated with the Darwinian theory. Like I said, I believe in evolution, but that it has its limitations. And that's logical. DNA is a complex code moreso than any computer code we have yet to create and are the building blocks that make every living thing. LOGIC would say there must be an intelligence behind that. If you walked onto a beach and saw scribbled in the sand "Bobby loves Katie", would you think it got there by chance or that something or someone put it there for a reason? Of course you would. How much more so with DNA?
     
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    It's an example of a mutation of the existing species. It is not different enough to be its own species because they can reproduce with 5 toed cats.

    It is called a polydactyl cat.
     
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    You must have missed the part where I explicitly said evolution and intelligent design aren't necessarily mutually exclusive...? We'll just add that to the list of things you've not paid attention to, because as I already said, you're not interested in learning anything. You're just here to repeat something you read on some creationist's blog.
     
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    There have been many mass extinctions in the history of this planet with new and different life forms replacing what was before them. This we know. In each instance do you believe god carefully designed the new life forms that replaced what existed before an extinction?
     
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    I fully believe God could have used Darwin's theory to bring about life on this planet, only problem is that the evidence for it is severely lacking IMO and it also would contradict the biblical account and create a mess that many Christians have caved in to and tried to reconcile. I'm not of that school. Remember, without the theory of evolution you are essentially admitting we are created beings in a created world. Keep that in mind when you think about how that might rub people the wrong way, especially if the biblical testimony is true that we are born sinners and enemies of God.
     
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    Darwin taught God. That's a new one.
     
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    Of course not... these mass extinctions didn't destroy all life on earth, did they? The life that survived, evolved, resulting in new dominant species, etc. But the origin of life on earth is still unanswered.
     

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