Look IMO no one is worth the kind of money these athletes are being paid because its us the fans that pay for it. And the owners are not going to understand the cost to the fans until they start seeing more & more empty seats because fans can no longer afford to attend games. As far as the comparisons of Kershaw & Scherzer, lets take a look.......... Over the last 3 seasons there won & lost records are similar but that's where it ends............... Kershaw.........51-23........Scherzer.........52-19 Kershaw.........2.21 ERA.........Scherzer..........3.69 ERA Kershaw.........709 strike outs........Scherzer........645 strike outs Kershaw...........0917 WHIP.........Scherzer.......1.172 WHIP Kershaw has led the league for 3 straight seasons in WHIP & ERA. He has led the league in strike outs in 2 of the last 3 seasons. And has finished 1st, 2nd, and 1st in CYA voting As posters like 59 & myself have repeatedly pointed out, you can't just go on wins, you need the ENTIRE package. Kershaw has done that, Scherzer has not....YET! Until he does a 9M dollar raise & 15M for the year is more then enough, for now. JMO.
Its not greed, he's making a calculated business decision. Its unfortunate that people toss around labels such greed in this instance. Only he can decide what is the right decision for him and his family. Not wanting to settle for a low ball offer not not make him greedy, rather I see the Tigers being cheap and manipulative. If you see greed, than that is your baggage, not Max's.
What would be your definition of greed. One great season does not entitle you to superstar status.MAYBE if he can come close to last seasons numbers he'll be a little more worthy. But HOLY SHIT! man you're offered a 9M dollar raise & he wants an 18M dollar raise. For ONE great season? Yeah GREED is definitely the right word.
Yep, I'm going with Merriam Webster on this one......Greed:: a selfish desire to have more of something (especially money). Not my words, Webster's. It will always amaze me how, ball players make such filthy money...when some of the most technological of minds, who work to advance societies, or Engineer and perfect Space Flight, or the Scientist in the Lab making headway's into the unknown, advancing all mankind, never see a fraction of the money a ball player makes. Or as Willie Mays said: "I can't believe they pay me to play baseball, the thing I love to do the most".
Yep, I'm going with Merriam Webster on this one......Greed:: a selfish desire to have more of something (especially money). Not my words, Webster's. It will always amaze me how, ball players make such filthy money...when some of the most technological of minds, who work to advance societies, or Engineer and perfect Space Flight, or the Scientist in the Lab making headway's into the unknown, advancing all mankind, never see a fraction of the money a ball player makes. Or as Willie Mays said: "I can't believe they pay me to play baseball, the thing I love to do the most".
The player gets to choose...take a deal or wait for FA. Greed would be something much uglier, additional outrageous contract terms above and beyond the norm. But in this instance, precedent shows that players waiting until FA generally command much better terms for their services. Its only greed in your eyes because you think that the number is high and that you would settle for the deal. Its only greed to those that sell themselves short. But if you want to call it greed, have at it. Then I adopt Gordon Gecko's mantra, greed is good.
...spin it however you want...it's still greed. $150 Mil is not "low balling" either...and "a calculated business decision"?...really?...and I suppose Cano wasn't greedy?
Dude...I wasn't calling you out. Just referencing our previous discussions about Cliff Lee, lol! When I want to call you out....it will be much more obvious.
No, Robbie wasn't greedy. He got the best deal he could. I think he traded cash in hand for additional potential revenues that come with playing in NY and winning championships, but we knew Robbie was generally lazy and those things require work. He's never been that kind of businessman/player.
...didn't mean you were calling me out, though it may have appeared that way...I was only reinforcing my original statement about Scherzer turning down a fat contract with hopes of getting even more. ...would I like to have Scherzer in pinstripes?...hell yeah. But if he turned down a 5-6 year extension it means he wants more, which would make him at least 37 at the end of the contract...and I think we should have learned by now about those kinds of contracts.
I mean you do something great for ONE year in ANY field & your boss offers to DOUBLE your salary. & you say no, triple it NO! Quadruple it NO! at what point does the term GREED come in? So I'll ask again Totus, "What is your definition of greed?" I'll wait.
I love the half empty, half full cup debacle.....if a cup is half full, then it is also half empty....however-it is both, yet neither either. one must remember grasshopper,- "one cannot fill one's cup until they empty it first" (Master HoleintheLip)
Nan-in served tea. He poured his visitor's cup full, and then kept on pouring. The professor watched the overflow until he no longer could restrain himself. "It is overfull. No more will go in!" "Like this cup," Nan-in said, "you are full of your own opinions and speculations. How can I show you Truth, unless you first empty your cup?"
