Re: Rasheed Wallace calls new rules, 'discrimination' http://realgm.com/src_wiretap_archives/430...s_dispute_rule/<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Rasheed Wallace Rips Dispute Rule 4th November, 2006 - 4:50 am Detroit News - Rasheed Wallace watched the Spurs-Mavericks game with high interest Thursday night. "Yeah, I watched that game," he said. "I didn't see no technical fouls given out there and I seen Tim Duncan do a lot of pointing and stuff like I did. All it is, is discrimination." Wallace, after holding his tongue for a day, finally had his say on his ejection from the season-opening loss to the Bucks on Wednesday. He was the first victim of the league's no-tolerance policy regarding disputes with referees. "In my opinion, it's really (garbage)," he said. "It's just given (referees) more power than what a majority of them can handle." [READ]</div> Wow, I was expecting something like this. We all knew Wallace was not going to keep quiet about it forever.
Re: Rasheed Wallace calls new rules, 'discrimination' He bobviously didnt watch the whole game then. Francisco Elson was called for a T after he went up for a huge dunk, and roared after he finished it.Sheed is just upset because he cant control his emotions.
Re: Rasheed Wallace calls new rules, 'discrimination' <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CB4AllStar @ Nov 4 2006, 10:36 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>He bobviously didnt watch the whole game then. Francisco Elson was called for a T after he went up for a huge dunk, and roared after he finished it.Sheed is just upset because he cant control his emotions.</div>He did say Tim Duncan, not the Spurs.Edit: Sheed is still a tard.
Re: Rasheed Wallace calls new rules, 'discrimination' <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CB4AllStar @ Nov 4 2006, 11:36 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Sheed is just upset because he cant control his emotions.</div>Basketball can be a very emotional game. And when you play that way for 20+ years and then all of a sudden can't..Yeah, it could prob be a tough thing to control.
Re: Rasheed Wallace calls new rules, 'discrimination' Well, it looks like he was referencing the game, not Tim Duncan.
Re: Rasheed Wallace calls new rules, 'discrimination' he's partially right. his reputation has really hurt him. he literally only held his hand up after a bad call and received a technical. it's ridiculous. sheed can't open his mouth without getting a technical anymore, when players with good reputations, in this case tim duncan, can get away with the same stuff wallace can't.<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CB4AllStar @ Nov 4 2006, 11:14 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Well, it looks like he was referencing the game, not Tim Duncan.</div>is that why he said "I seen Tim Duncan do a lot of pointing and stuff like I did. All it is, is discrimination."?
Re: Rasheed Wallace calls new rules, 'discrimination' No...<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>"Yeah, I watched that game," he said. "I didn't see no technical fouls given out there</div>That's the part where it looked like he was referencing the game.
Re: Rasheed Wallace calls new rules, 'discrimination' <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CB4AllStar @ Nov 4 2006, 12:17 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>No...That's the part where it looked like he was referencing the game.</div>Then he went into the Tim Duncan part though. So, he forgot/didn't see the Elson one, he still made a very valid point about Tim Duncan bitching and not getting called.Also guys, how about Sam Cassell the other night vs. Denver, where he got in the ref's face and bitched/moaned about a no-call during an entire timeout? No technical there, but of course if Sheed claps his hands he's ejected. I can't stand it, and I do agree with Rasheed. This no-tolerance BS is just that - BS. Like he said throughout the rest of that interview, "Stern is trying to make these players act like robots and he's taking all the emotion out of the game." He also said something like "They want us to go up to the ref and whisper. I'm not whispering, I'm going to be myself and get excited."I mean if they keep this up, Rasheed will set a technical record, and he won't deserve half of them.Technicals this year that were NOT deserved AT ALL1. Rasheed saying "oh!" and putting his hands up after a block. That lead to the 2nd one, so he should not have been ejected in the first place.2. Andres Nocioni putting his hands up after a call... with no facial expression and no words coming out of his mouth. Give me a motherfuckin break.3. Francisco Elson saying "oh!" on the way down off the rim after a hard dunk. They called it "taunting." For one, he wasn't even looking at anybody when he said "oh!", and two - taunting is when you talk unnecessary smack and get up in a players' face and basically say "Yeah bi*ch I own you, I just dunked on you!" All he did was yell because he was excited after a dunk.4. Carmelo Anthony tossing his headband. WOW.5. Mike Bibby getting ejected. Give me a break, again.6. Wally Szczerbiak, one of the classiest guys in the league, saying "oh come on" after a foul.Noticeable No-Calls1. Tim Duncan whining like crazy in the Dallas game.2. LeBron in the Spurs game a couple times.3. Cassell arguing/whining about a no-call throughout en entire timeout.If you are going to call technical fouls on a player for getting excited after they dunk, that is friggen insane. What does Stern want them to do? During an emotional game with the adrenaline pumping - "Excuse me, sir. I was wondering, would you mind explaining the ruling on that call during the next dead possession? I appreciate it, you're doing a great job sir." COME ON.
Re: Rasheed Wallace calls new rules, 'discrimination' Add this one to the undeserved technical list as well:Last night in the Sixers-Magic game Keith Bogans got called for a foul, walked over to his coach and shook his head... technical foul. That was ridiculous.
Re: Rasheed Wallace calls new rules, 'discrimination' <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BigMo763 @ Nov 4 2006, 12:15 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Add this one to the undeserved technical list as well:Last night in the Sixers-Magic game Keith Bogans got called for a foul, walked over to his coach and shook his head... technical foul. That was ridiculous.</div>Yeah I was about to mention that one. At first I didn't even realize that he did anything it was so little. That one was just way to reidiculous. Stern is ruining the league with this no tolerance policy. And of course the fact that the refs aren't letting the game be physical anymore. I'm not even enjoing watching basketball as much anymore because of how much the games are being stopped now so players can go to the line. I'm getting so tired of that.
Re: Rasheed Wallace calls new rules, 'discrimination' Nothing beats when Rasheed laughed and got a technical.
Re: Rasheed Wallace calls new rules, 'discrimination' CelticBalla: that's the best post I've seen on this board since I registered. By the way: I didn't know about the Bogans T, that crazy. This is going too far, and I hope Stern is smart enough to realize that. You can't take the emotion away from the game. That is one thing that we as fans love about the game.
Re: Rasheed Wallace calls new rules, 'discrimination' This is starting to get ridiculous. This new rule has brought nothing good to the NBA. All this is going to do is eject players and bring down the excitment of the games which will ultimatley lose the NBA money. If Stern is smart, he will tell the refs to lighten up. Another thing; how do the refs and more importantly, the league expect these players to adjust this fast? It is way to hard of a task to ask and it is unjust. This needs to be fixed.
Re: Rasheed Wallace calls new rules, 'discrimination' Stern won't tell the refs to lighten up because he doesn't want to admit he made a mistake. I agree with everyone here, this rule is ridiculous. As much as I hate the Spurs and their players, Elson got teched for absolutely nothing.I thought the refs at my league were strict, but damn..
Re: Rasheed Wallace calls new rules, 'discrimination' <span style="font-family:Book Antiqua">Well, Carmelo also got booted with two technicals against the Clips. I don't see/hear him complaining. Rasheed is just looking for silly. I still respect his game, though. He might bi*ch and groan a lot, but whatever.</span>
Re: Rasheed Wallace calls new rules, 'discrimination' Also something else I just remembered. Reggie Miller said something like this and I totally agree:When a player dunks or blocks a shot, the fans initial recation is to make a face or say "oh!" Right? Well same thing with the players... when THEY MAKE THE BLOCK/DUNK. And that's a technical now?But about Miller, he said tell the fans not to react after plays like that and kick them out of the arena if you see a person do it. If the arena can do that, keep the new rules.
Re: Rasheed Wallace calls new rules, 'discrimination' Looks, I'm a diehard Pistons fan, but the league is making a stand. The stand is they're not going to let players show up referees and other players anymore, specifically referees. Rasheed can't go a single game without politicing with the referees for whistles and reacting to every call in the game. The dude has a serious mental problem. All NBA calibur players are bigger than the game in high school. After that Rasheed went to UNC where he was still bigger than the game with a "you are better than everyone on the court unless they're BLue Devils" mentaliy. In Portland he had no discipline. He's at the end of his career and he's still trying to figure out the refs aren't his servants. He is one of the reasons the NBA is making these changes and they're going to make an example out of him. Tim Duncan isn't getting his techs because Tim Duncan is a polite and likable guy.Sheed is going to cry foul (no pun intended) all year, and it's going to drive me nuts because it's going to hurt my team.
Re: Rasheed Wallace calls new rules, 'discrimination' <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Mobruler @ Nov 5 2006, 02:45 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Looks, I'm a diehard Pistons fan, but the league is making a stand. The stand is they're not going to let players show up referees and other players anymore, specifically referees. Rasheed can't go a single game without politicing with the referees for whistles and reacting to every call in the game. The dude has a serious mental problem. All NBA calibur players are bigger than the game in high school. After that Rasheed went to UNC where he was still bigger than the game with a "you are better than everyone on the court unless they're BLue Devils" mentaliy. In Portland he had no discipline. He's at the end of his career and he's still trying to figure out the refs aren't his servants. He is one of the reasons the NBA is making these changes and they're going to make an example out of him. Tim Duncan isn't getting his techs because Tim Duncan is a polite and likable guy.Sheed is going to cry foul (no pun intended) all year, and it's going to drive me nuts because it's going to hurt my team.</div>But does that mean that the Referees should be able to control a game, possibly the outcome of a game with a short whistle too? About 40% of Rasheed's technicals are B.S. every year. If you are a Piston fan and watch the games you would know what I mean, like the Captain said, he got one last year for laughing at Big Z when he tried to push him to the ground.Rasheed has a much shorter leash then most of the NBA, and watching them shorten it even more sucks. Rasheed plays with emotion. Last night he got a tech because he thought he got fouled after a play and called "and one" and pumped his fist. Maybe it is just me, but if that is worthy of a tech then this rule is way too strict.
Re: Rasheed Wallace calls new rules, 'discrimination' Are you kidding me? I had no idea stuff like this is going on. What the hell is wrong with the NBA? Are they trying to get rid of all the fun things that we loved seeing during games when most of us were watching it growing up? I can understand why they would about arguing with the ref but now you can't even get exciting after a dunk? Come on! This is Bullsh!t. If this continues after this season I might just stop watching the games all together.
Re: Rasheed Wallace calls new rules, 'discrimination' <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Mobruler @ Nov 5 2006, 01:45 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Tim Duncan isn't getting his techs because Tim Duncan is a polite and likable guy.</div>I don't think he's a polite and likable guy. Not that much anyway. He has thrown his hands up in disgust so many times. I don't really think he deserved a tech in the Mavs/Spurs game, but there have been times in the past he really needed one. I also don't really see why Sheed shouldn't have gotten a tech. He seemed pretty whiny. I just saw highlights though, so I don't know.Last night seemed kinda absurd though. Jason Terry gets knocked to the ground, and of course Avery gets a little upset because there wasn't even a foul called. Then Avery gets thrown out of the game. It has happened before, but it didn't seem like it was warranted. Later on, Terry fouls a guy hard. Once again, I only got a look or two at the play, but it didn't seem like a flagrant 2. I'm not sure, but it all seemed a bit too harsh.
