Bulls’ decision to dump Carlos Boozer ‘all but’ made

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  1. truebluefan

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    As the Chicago Bulls prepare to make run at New York Knicks’ forward Carmelo Anthony, they will likely have to rid themselves of Carlos Boozer’s contract via a trade or the amnesty clause.

    According to Joe Cowley of The Chicago Sun-Times, the Bulls‘ decision to rid themselves of Boozer is “all but made.”

    Power forward Carlos Boozer, however, just might be sacrificed.

    “Obviously, we still have the amnesty as an option that we haven’t used that a lot of teams have,’’ Forman said Wednesday.

    ‘‘That’s something, as we go into July, we’ll have to evaluate. If it’s something that makes sense as far as getting our team stronger, we may go that way. But we also may not go that way.’’

    A source said that decision is all but made. The Bulls are looking to rid themselves of Boozer’s $16.8 million cap hit for next season.

    - See more at: http://fansided.com/2014/05/03/nba-rumors-bulls-decision-dump-carlos-boozer-made/#!HLZSQ
     
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    I will be shocked if the Nulls amnesty Boozer without signing Anthony. For all the reasons some other team will sign him, management will figure he's worth keeping. Especially when the Chairman won't allow it. He'll only pay for a winner, and he'd still pay Boozer big money after amnesty. Big hit to the bottom line. Like a tax.
     
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    I will be shocked if the Bulls get Anthony. I'll also be shocked if the Bulls are able to trade Boozer. With these two in mind, I'll be at least surprised if Boozer's not amnestied. It just seems clear that Boozer's time with the Bulls needs to come to an end.
     
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    I find this article bizarre in that I can't tell if it's brilliant or awful journalism. It's definitely nothing in between.

    Paraphrased, Forman says that no decision has been made. Author's commentary: decision has been made.

    This is like a fucking jedi mind trick. Where were there whispers that Rose was displeased with Boozer? And now that I'm aware of the whispers, and aware that they weren't true, were they actually true?

    Deep, deep stuff going on here . . . :lol:
     
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    My problem with this was why the hell the author decided to include the Forman quote. I mean, it kinda refutes his lead (that is, what "his source" says).

    One thing is for sure, with the explosion of the web, the number of sources of information has increased exponentially while the percentage of sources that can be considered even somewhat "credible" has become disturbingly small.
     
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    Gar sounds like he can't make up his mind. Or he's still trying to convince the Chairman to make the costly basketball decision.
     
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    Another obvious thought is why gar or anyone else on the Bulls is saying anything to discourage trade partners (why trade for him if they can sign him for cheap after amnesty?), or Boozer (who will be our backup C next season).

    Isn't it smarter to say, "we love Carlos and all our players. We will consider moves that make us stronger."
     
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    I don't think there are any magic words/phrases that are particularly smarter than others. The key is to not say anything of substance. Your words above accomplish this and so did Forman's.

    In some ways, it doesn't matter what you say because even if you were completely candid, other GMs wouldn't believe you anyway.
     
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    He was specific about Boozer. My phrase is not specific about any player.

    The fact is that Boozer is our starting PF as of this moment. That's the candid thing to say.

    What Gar did was to telegraph that Boozer might be available for free.
     
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    Boozer has been a positive more than a negative but was never the stud hoped for especially at the price. Him vs C Space I will take C Space 10 times out of 10.
     
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    Malik Allen is fit and tan and ready to take his place.
     
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    Hell do a voodoo zombie spell and put my man Boerwinkle out there. Just don't waste the space with the Booze that could have been that quite not ever was.

    The chairman will pay for winners. Boozfool is proof he will pay for losers too.
     
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    The math works something like this:

    With Boozer, the team profits $55M

    If they amnesty Boozer, the team profit drops by about $16M. Minus whatever amount he's signed for by the Spurs or Heat.

    So profit $55M vs. profit $39M. The Chairman chooses $55M.

    This is why I don't see it happening.

    However, the chairman said he'd pay for a winner. So if LeBron wants to sign here, I think he'd pay the $16M to amnesty Boozer.

    For a voodoo zombie Boerwinkle? He doesn't want to pay $16M for a guy who's frankly not as good as Boozer.
     
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    If profit is paramount, they'll amnesty Boozer which will increase profit by the amount another team pays him, say $4mil. They will replace Boozer with a minimum salary player which will reduce profits by a little less than $1mil.
     
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    PJ Brown is still able to play at the same level of excellence today as when he played for us.
     
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    Here's a thought.

    Greg Munroe is a UFA. The 6'11" PF put up an 18.1 PER for Detroit, is a 16/10 kind of guy at age 23. Definitely a post kind of player.

    Detroit is probably going to let him walk. They have Drummond as their cornerstone, and a big investment in Josh Smith (who should be playing PF for them).
     
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    monroe is restricted i believe
     
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    You're right, he is RFA.

    I read a number of articles today saying the Pistons are going to let him walk. Apparently he wants a MAX contract, which he'll possibly get from a handful of teams.
     
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    I'm not sure how much of a fan I am, but I like the idea of throwing money at Monroe better than throwing big money at Gordon Hayward.
     
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    Monroe's talented, but makes little sense for the Bulls. He's not as good as Noah and is only marginally better than Gibson.
     

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