I know there are a lot of factors to the mavs slow start but this can't be ignore. This is a broken record but Stackhouse is shooting 34% from the field and has only shot 4 free throws this year so far. I have been complaining about his game even when the mavs were winning. When will Avery realize he is not 6th man material anymore along with low IQ and descending athleticism? If that's not enough than letting Mobley go off tonight just adds onto it. I'm sure Ager could just as well if not better than that. What more is there to lose?
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (mavsfan1000 @ Nov 9 2006, 03:21 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I know there are a lot of factors to the mavs slow start but this can't be ignore. This is a broken record but Stackhouse is shooting 34% from the field and has only shot 4 free throws this year so far. I have been complaining about his game even when the mavs were winning. When will Avery realize he is not 6th man material anymore along with low IQ and descending athleticism? If that's not enough than letting Mobley go off tonight just adds onto it. I'm sure Ager could just as well if not better than that. What more is there to lose?</div>Oh Please!! Stackhouse is the reason the Mavs are winless!?? That is the weakest excuse ever. Stack might not be a great sixth man, but that doesn't make the whole team lose...that's not very good logic.
I thought they should have traded Stack in the offseason, his value isn't gonna get any higher than it was. But I agree right now is the perfect time to give Ager some minutes.
You know I thought this was going to be a little quirk by mavsfan with the topic title. Until I read the post and saw he was seriously blaming Stackhouse for every single loss. Can you honestly shut the F*ck up about Stackhouse? No sh*t it's a broken record by you and your constant ramble about him. No this ain't Stackhouse's fault. One player doesn't make the whole team lose. Everyone has played like crap, did you ignore Terry's 1 pt game against the Rockets? That sure as hell helped didn't it mavsfan? Or how about Dirk last night who had trouble against Mobley of all people. Plus the fact he acts like he doesn't care anymore with his play. I see no passion in anyone on this team. The new players aren't paying dividends yet and to top it off, Avery Johnson has been awful in his sub patterns and overall coaching of this team. We have no offense and our defense sucks. This is just a bad team right now. And Stackhouse is hardly the only one to blame.Edited:On Ager, I find it so funny how you want to see him get playing time. When if anyone his game resembles a younger Stackhouse. Did you notice how he chunks it up during the preaseason or are you just blind to homerism? Kid shot the ball a lot and not at a good percentage either. So don't give me this crap about playing a guy over another player you basically bashed for similar games.
From somebody who watched Ager through college, and has seen tons of Stackhouse.. I'd say you do not want to make that switch. Ager is overrated and won;t make much of his NBA career. The only reason he was a first round pick was because of how weak the draft was.The team just doesn't look as strong as it was last year.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ReppinTheD @ Nov 9 2006, 02:58 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Oh Please!! Stackhouse is the reason the Mavs are winless!?? That is the weakest excuse ever. Stack might not be a great sixth man, but that doesn't make the whole team lose...that's not very good logic.</div>Hey did you read my post? I said this isn't the only reason the mavs are 0-4 and the mavs have won even if with Stackhouse playing like crap. This year is an all time low for him. I guess that is what pot does to your brain.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Hey did you read my post? I said this isn't the only reason the mavs are 0-4 and the mavs have won even if with Stackhouse playing like crap. This year is an all time low for him. I guess that is what pot does to your brain.</div> Yet you only gripe about Stackhouse and title the thread Blame Stackhouse. And what does pot have to do with anything?
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Rok @ Nov 9 2006, 07:25 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Yet you only gripe about Stackhouse and title the thread Blame Stackhouse. And what does pot have to do with anything?</div>It has a question mark to it. If I clearly blamed Stackhouse for every lost than there wouldnt' be a question mark. At least with Ager you are developing him even though he sucks just like Stackhouse. If Ager is never going to do anything this team is screwed. Dirk shouldn't have played FIBA. I think the effects of it are definitely showing fatigue. Terry had a good game last night so glad he is out of his funk which I knew would happen. Don't know about Stackhouse though. All our players coming in are journey men that are highly overrated.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>It has a question mark to it. If I clearly blamed Stackhouse for every lost than there wouldnt' be a question mark.</div> Um, if you didn't want to blame Stackhouse, you wouldn't have put that in the first place. But no, you had to make a point and put his name only. Why? Oh because you think he clearly is to blame for. Hence your post and topic title. You could have easily made the topic 0-4, then discussed everyone's fault. That would have made your point reflect what your saying.(that he's not the only one to blame) Did you do that, obviously not. You went the predictable mavsfan way, and called out Stackhouse like you always do. That is why reppin and me are you telling you it is hardly only Stackhouse's fault. <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>If Ager is never going to do anything this team is screwed.</div> Why is that, I never saw Ager as anyone but a backup guard for the Mavs. He was taken in the late first round, he's not a Howard steal because this draft was not as deep. He's what he was draft wise. A Stackhouse replacement I said in the past. If were going to at all improve at 2 guard, we need to trade for one. <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>All our players coming in are journey men that are highly overrated.</div> Croshere and George are hardly journeymen if at all one. Both were with Lakers and Pacers their whole career respectively. Buckner is the only one I would call one. Johnson played significant years for two teams. Buck to me has disappointed, Johnson has been steady but overplayed. Croshere, average and George, has yet to play except last night. Their overrated had the Mavs been counting on them to be our top 7. Right now our top 7 is overrated, they've played like crap.
Yeah you can blame everyone including Howard's injury but I am just mentioning the one that is struggling the most which is Stackhouse. Do you not agree?
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Yeah you can blame everyone including Howard's injury but I am just mentioning the one that is struggling the most which is Stackhouse. Do you not agree?</div> The topic is about our 0-4 start and whose to blame. As for struggling the most, I would say Avery. He's not motivating this team at all, it's a shame when I enjoy watching the Bobcats lose a game more then the Mavs. Reason being is their actually playing and caring. I have not seen any Mav give a damn so far. And that weighs on Avery more then anyone else. If I wanted to go for a player, if not for yesterday's game. It would have been on Jason Terry. He flat out stunk the past 3 games, to where he wasn't even contributing. Terry is someone who if he ain't shooting well, does nothing for you. That's bigger then Stackhouse less then adequate performance, because Terry is actually needed upon to score big for us. Without him shooting well, our offense is even worse. Not only that, our best 3 pt shooter couldn't hit one. Were shooting way too many jumpers, this includes everyone. No drives = no freebies, rebounding is way off from last year. Defense has become worse, I don't understand it. The whole team is to blame.
I haven't been watching the Mavs at all but I have watched plenty of Stackhouse in the past and I just want to comment on Stackhouse as a starter. He was an NBA cancer before he arrived in Dallas, the guy is a ballhog, doesn't shoot that well when he's taking lots of shots in a game. Every team he left got better after he left. He's a very nice 6th man off the bench and a great one on one guy but he's certainly not a main option for a team. The Mavs will continue to struggle without Josh Howard.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Rok @ Nov 9 2006, 08:26 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>The topic is about our 0-4 start and whose to blame. As for struggling the most, I would say Avery. He's not motivating this team at all, it's a shame when I enjoy watching the Bobcats lose a game more then the Mavs. Reason being is their actually playing and caring. I have not seen any Mav give a damn so far. And that weighs on Avery more then anyone else. If I wanted to go for a player, if not for yesterday's game. It would have been on Jason Terry. He flat out stunk the past 3 games, to where he wasn't even contributing. Terry is someone who if he ain't shooting well, does nothing for you. That's bigger then Stackhouse less then adequate performance, because Terry is actually needed upon to score big for us. Without him shooting well, our offense is even worse. Not only that, our best 3 pt shooter couldn't hit one. Were shooting way too many jumpers, this includes everyone. No drives = no freebies, rebounding is way off from last year. Defense has become worse, I don't understand it. The whole team is to blame.</div>I guess the cancer of the team has spread to everyone. When you have unselfish players they are a good influence on the team while selfish players do the opposite. Stackhousitis is happening to everyone on the team now. :ranting: Also this team is starting to show they miss Nash. I guess it took 2 years to realize how key he was to the offense as Dirk is no longer able to put the team on his back.
0-4 Loss shouldn't be balmed on not only Stack but the whole team. Everyone is struggling maybe they are not struggling but they were in the Finals last year teams are going to be gunning them and play harder than usual. Dirk's fatigue is a concern to because of FIBA. So its not only Stacks fault.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>I guess the cancer of the team has spread to everyone. When you have unselfish players they are a good influence on the team while selfish players do the opposite. Stackhousitis is happening to everyone on the team now. :ranting: Also this team is starting to show they miss Nash. I guess it took 2 years to realize how key he was to the offense as Dirk is no longer able to put the team on his back.</div> Get over Stackhouse and his effect on the team. He was on it last year and the year before, 4 games into this season doesn't all of a sudden make him a cancer. Does he shoot too much, yes but that's hardly a cancer. It's not like he takes 20+ shots a game like certain ballhogs do. Also, he does not cause issues on or off the court since he's been on the team. By issues I mean fighting, stirring the pot behind the scenes, complaining about playing time. He has not made one fuss about coming off the bench since he got here. And Stackhousitis. You pull that one out your ass? How about calling it Avery's fault for not developing any offensive scheme for the team instead of relying so much on isolations? And your last comment is a joke, since when have you been a backer for Nash. You always gloat about how easy he was to replace and would have not fit with this team. And it took you this long after Nash left to realize how sh*tty our offense has been? Didn't last years single isolations make it clear. This team has yet to have any consistent offensive schemes under Avery.
Like I said on my last post this team was explosive enough to get away with mainly isolation plays but it's not working as well this year. Dirk looks worn out and the new players not understanding what is going. George took some shots tonight that I didn't like also. It's not as much how many shots you take but how good the shots you take are percentage wise. I guess the athleticism was high to get away with having a sh*tty offensive scheme and hopefully Dallas doesn't lose a step. If they do than that makes a huge difference on the isolation game.
Dirk didn't look too worn out tonight. Maybe he was just playing harder than normal.Stackhouse played fantastically, too. I know he won't play like this all the time, but when he steps up, he's great. You've gotta give him credit for that.
Yeah he definitely had his best game of the season by far but yeah I don't expect that kind of game from him often.
Overall it was a good team effort that actually showed up. Stack needs to show up during this span when Howard is out for this team to succeed. I was surprized we went with George late in the 4th. He really wasn't impressing me but I knew his jumper was streaky. He rebounded well though, defense wasn't bad either. I think one of the guys were missing and not getting mentioned is Benga. Seeing as Diop and Damp are picking up some fouls limiting their time. Having Benga prevents this team from having to go small a whole lot. Anyone know the timetable for Benga, I remember reading 2 weeks, but is there an exact date?
