The Clippers got SCAAA-REWWWEEEED last night

I don't think that applies here. The way I interpret that rule is that if I was holding the ball, and you slapped my hand and the ball went flying out of bounds, it would still be my ball. But in this case, if you slap my hand and I lose the ball, and then I hit the ball again before it goes out of bounds, it's their ball. From what I saw, Barnes slapped Jackson as he came down the lane, the ball comes out, and then Jackson flails to emphasize the foul, but when he flails he hits the ball again and it goes out of bounds.

It was a foul, but the refs didn't call a foul. They called it as out of bounds to the Thunder. The call was wrong.

[video=youtube;BT55zpjT0v4]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BT55zpjT0v4[/video]

 

We will have to agree to disagree then. I interpret the rule differently. He had both hands on the ball when Barnes slapped his hand, causing the ball to go out of bounds. Yes, off Jackson's hand, but that's because it was hit and in one motion went out of bounds.

 

lol. Is anyone surprised, though, that Tony Brothers made both of those crucial calls.

 

They were both right though

 

But it looked like, to me, that when he hit Jackson it caused the ball to come free, but it wouldn't have necessarily gone out of bounds. It was when Jackson flailed his arms to try to draw the foul that the ball hit his hand and went out. I don't have a bias in this, that's just how I interpret that rule and how I saw the play.

 

Like I said in the playoff thread...vague. Barnes actually caused it to go out of bounds. Jackson lost the ball when his hand was hit (which shouldn't even be a foul according to this rule, you just get the ball back) Jackson then touched it and deflected it a bit with his right hand. He didn't have possession again.

It says caused, Barnes caused it. Thunder ball. The rule doesn't clarify things. What if Barnes slapped the hand and the ball went off of Jackson's leg?

Clippers choked, and it did look like Paul got hit on the last play. I hate that refs are even a part of it.

 

Caused is a vague term, indeed. I think it means that the initial motion of the defender has to directly cause it to go out of bounds. I don't think the pinball theory works. If he hits your hand and then the ball hits your knee and goes out of bounds, I think the ball goes to the defender's team.

 

After I saw that rule, I thought maybe they were right, but then reading this... I really think it should have been LAC ball. And so did everyone in that stadium.

 

Flop City whining about the refs. Reminds me a lot of the Houston series.

I HATE both of these teams, but the Clippers are the biggest whiners in the league. Griffin Farce is 6'10, 260 and he flops around like a rag doll. The guy should be ashamed of himself. CP3 and Doc both whine after EVERY call/non-call.

The poor refs can't figure out which media darlings they are supposed to favor in this series. Is it the league MVP, or endorsement kings Griffin Farce and Chris/Cliff? No wonder the refs have been so bad in this series.

BNM

P.S. The Clippers totally screwed themselves. Take care of the ball and that controversial play never happens. CP3 thought Westbrook was going to intentionally foul him with 17 seconds left, let up, lost his focus, lost the ball and the game. It's like the Rockets whining about the officials when their leading scorer couldn't throw the ball in the ocean. Want to win? Play better. Don't let it come down to one bang-bang out of bounds call to decide the game. Take care of the ball and execute and you win. Plain and simple.

 

I hate both teams, but the Clippers definitely got screwed. The ball was obviously off of OKC and it was reviewed. It should have been Clipper ball. Whatever other mistakes were made is irrelevant. This was a reviewed call and was blown. That shouldn't happen.

 

Believe it or not they actually made the right call. Per the NBA rulebook, rule 8 section 2c:

http://mediacentral.nba.com/media/mediacentral/Official-NBA-Rule-Book.pdf

"The ball is caused to go out-of-bounds by the last player to touch it before it goes out,
provided it is out-of-bounds because of touching something other than a player. If the ball is
out-of-bounds because of touching a player who is on or outside a boundary, such player
caused it to go out. If a player has his hand in contact with the ball and an opponent hits the
hand causing the ball to go out-of-bounds, the team whose player had his hand on the ball
will retain possession."

 

But thats not entirely what happened.

Dude slapped his wrist, the ball bobbled, then he flailed (read: flopped) and pushed the ball out w/his own hand.

 

Sure, hits the hand causing the ball to go out of bounds, but what if he hits the hand and then the ball hits the other hand and goes out of bounds? Or a knee? Or a foot?

 

Very Good Points. IDK. What I do know is the Jackson was a dumba$$ for not passing the ball to Durant or Westbrook.

 

The refs had the balls to make the situation right and gave the balk to OKC. Good on them.

Paul clearly fouled Westbrook. No phantom call.

The refs did not screw the Clippers. Chris Paul did.

 

That's not what the replay is for though. The replay is to see who the ball went off. It went off OKC. It's not up to the refs to change the rules as they see fit. That's why the NBA sucks so much in the first place. Refs taking matters into their own hands and calling things they shouldn't call.

 

The Clippers didn't get screwed, they choked. More specifically Chris Paul choked. Let's review.

With 17 seconds left, Paul expecting a foul attempts to hoist a 3/4 court shot for some dumb reason and Westbrook strips him. If he holds onto the ball, the Clipps win the game at the line. Then with 6 seconds left Paul fouls Westbrook on a 3 pointer! Then the final play Paul dribbles into nowhere instead of pulling up for the jumper and turns the ball over. Then with 1 second left he doesn't even bother to foul, he lets time run out.

This one was all Chris Paul. Probably the biggest choke job by a single player I've ever seen in a playoff game.

 

The refs look worse giving the ball to the Clippers in that situation

Instead of Reggie Jackson shooting FTs t tie the game it would have been Clippers ball. THAT is being screwed by the refs.

Saying the refs screwed the Clippers is dumb. Chris Paul did far more to lose that game for the Clippers than the refs did.

 

Idc

The result of the play ended up being right. That's all that matters to me.

OKC gets screwed if it's the other way around.