Lonely loser who can't get laid snaps and goes on Santa Barbara shooting spree.

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  1. EL PRESIDENTE

    EL PRESIDENTE Username Retired in Honor of Lanny.

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    Yes, because that's what I'm saying. This guy was clearly crazy, yet I suspect he was brought up in a "supportive" and "nurturing" environment where nothing is ever his fault and everyone else is bullying him and he's a special flower that can't do wrong.

    Celebrate his uniqueness, yay!

    Pretty sure the rest of the mass shooters are the same way, but GUN CONTROL. VIOLENT MOVIES. SATANIC MUSIC. Not Asperger's, it's never the Aspergers.
     
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    [video=youtube;bQilqOveh2s]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bQilqOveh2s&feature=kp[/video]
     
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    Eastoff But it was a beginning.

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    Not all humans kill. Not all humans rape. Not all of those with mental illness hurt others. It's broad generalizations that lazy philippinos make, which hurt society. /s
     
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    http://www.smh.com.au/world/elliot-rodgers-parents-warned-police-weeks-before-mass-shooting-20140525-zrne1.html

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    I have met you El Pres, you are overweight. Your parents shouldn't have coddled you. You will someday have heart disease. It's bad parenting like you were exposed to that run up medical expense bills and force healthier weighted individuals to foot that bill!!!
     
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    Of course not. Not all young males with Aspergers go on murderous shooting sprees due to their inability to handle social interactions. However, all that go on murderous shooting sprees due to their inability to handle social interactions are young males that have Aspergers or other similar mental disabilities. But we'll just continue to ignore it until the next time it happens.
     
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    What exactly do you propose?
     
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    Looking into it?
     
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    I guess it was the mother who called authorities:

    http://www.foxnews.com/us/2014/05/27/elliot-rodgers-family-tried-to-intervene-before-deadly-rampage/

     
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    Maybe they are?
    But you seem to speak from different angles on it. If your only answer is look into it, the complaints about coddling kids seems odd. Does not coddling them produce the results you want? What's the in between?
     
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    I agree that this is a problem, but I don't think this is the same as saying "it's okay if you need medication."
     
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    It doesn't seem that way. In many of these shootings, as has been mentioned on this forum, there have been either autism spectrum disorders or Aspergers (which are now one and the same in the DSM-IV).

    I believe that in America, there is a culture in which parents are overprotective, especially when it comes to autism and Aspergers. There are movements to celebrate the genius of high functioning Aspergers, yet, I don't think people are looking into the negative, violent aspects of it. A lot of this is due to parent's denial that there is something off about their kids. The problems are ignored and these psychotic attitudes are fostered ending in these mass shootings. Granted, they are for the most part outliers, but when most of the shooters exhibit these characteristics, there needs to be awareness to spot more of the warning signs and to do something about it.
     
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    I agree with you about looking into the connection for sure.
    It's the "do something about it" part. What, exactly? Do you lock them up knowing it's a possibility? Heavily medicate all for concerns of a few? It's easy to just day do something about it
     
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    Apparently the kid had been seeing counselors for years, and was currently seeing a social worker who actually called the cops. It seems to me, in this case, people around the kid were doing things to try and help the situation. I mean, the called the cops because they saw his creepy videos talking of retribution. So if the parents got psychiatrists and social workers to work with the kid, and they brought in the authorities when they saw dangerous signs, then what else could have been done? It seems to me this is just a sick fuck who was going snap at some point regardless of intervention. Perhaps there could have been different laws, but as things stand I'm not really sure what those laws would be.
     
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    Probably just awareness. People can perhaps see warning signs sooner. Or devise treatment and have a support system where they don't feel so isolated.

    You just can't lock people up. I'm not a fan of medication either.
     
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    So nothing to suggest but support but then you mock him being coddled and being nurtured, etc.
     
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    Give him a support system so you can then mock that as "supportive" and"nurturing"
     
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    From the article I linked earlier, the cops came and the kid put on a front of being a really nice guy. So the cops thought he was okay and left.
     
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    There's a big difference between a support system and buying him nordstrom gift cards every time he's depressed. The guy certainly had entitlement issues and that just doesn't appear out of thin air.
     
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    I've been in a situation in which the police were called to assess a threat on someone, through the interview they noted that he was crazy, yet did not do anything and he snapped. Most of the time, unless they threaten directly they are going to do something violent, they won't (and can't) do anything. The only thing they can do is an involuntary psychiatric hold and that requires proof they'll harm themselves or others.
     

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