US captive soldier in Afghanistan exchanged for 5 Guantanamo detainees

PapaG · Jun 2, 2014

crandc said: ↑

Israel has released large numbers of Hamas prisoners for even a single Isreali soldier. The sainted Ronald Reagan traded arms for hostages and used proceeds to illegally fund a war.

A lot more than 6 years ago.
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Strawmen and red herrings. Thanks for adding nothing.

Mediocre Man · Jun 2, 2014

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When does this clown's court-martial start? When does he have to face the families of those who died looking for his deserting ass?
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He's certainly no James Francis Ryan, is he?

PapaG · Jun 2, 2014

No wonder the left is feting this guy as a hero. He's a deserter who says he was ashamed to be an American, his release let 5 Taliban senior officers go in exchange, and US troops were killed while searching for this piece of shit. Let's get the hearings on this going by the end of the week. So many questions need to be answered before this POS's court martial.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articl...-guy-who-walked-off-in-the-dead-of-night.html

We Lost Soldiers in the Hunt for Bergdahl, a Guy Who Walked Off in the Dead of Night

For five years, soldiers have been forced to stay silent about the disappearance and search for Bergdahl. Now we can talk about what really happened.
It was June 30, 2009, and I was in the city of Sharana, the capitol of Paktika province in Afghanistan. As I stepped out of a decrepit office building into a perfect sunny day, a member of my team started talking into his radio. “Say that again,” he said. “There’s an American soldier missing?”

There was. His name was Private First Class Bowe Bergdahl, the only prisoner of war in the Afghan theater of operations. His release from Taliban custody on May 31 marks the end of a nearly five-year-old story for the soldiers of his unit, the 1st Battalion, 501st Parachute Infantry Regiment. I served in the same battalion in Afghanistan and participated in the attempts to retrieve him throughout the summer of 2009. After we redeployed, every member of my brigade combat team received an order that we were not allowed to discuss what happened to Bergdahl for fear of endangering him. He is safe, and now it is time to speak the truth.

And that the truth is: Bergdahl was a deserter, and soldiers from his own unit died trying to track him down.

On the night prior to his capture, Bergdahl pulled guard duty at OP Mest, a small outpost about two hours south of the provincial capitol. The base resembled a wagon circle of armored vehicles with some razor wire strung around them. A guard tower sat high up on a nearby hill, but the outpost itself was no fortress. Besides the tower, the only hard structure that I saw in July 2009 was a plywood shed filled with bottled water. Soldiers either slept in poncho tents or inside their vehicles.

The next morning, Bergdahl failed to show for the morning roll call. The soldiers in 2nd Platoon, Blackfoot Company discovered his rifle, helmet, body armor and web gear in a neat stack. He had, however, taken his compass. His fellow soldiers later mentioned his stated desire to walk from Afghanistan to India.

The Daily Beast’s Christopher Dickey later wrote that "[w]hether Bergdahl…just walked away from his base or was lagging behind on a patrol at the time of his capture remains an open and fiercely debated question.” Not to me and the members of my unit. Make no mistake: Bergdahl did not "lag behind on a patrol,” as was cited in news reports at the time. There was no patrol that night. Bergdahl was relieved from guard duty, and instead of going to sleep, he fled the outpost on foot. He deserted. I’ve talked to members of Bergdahl’s platoon—including the last Americans to see him before his capture. I’ve reviewed the relevant documents. That’s what happened.
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PapaG · Jun 2, 2014

Mediocre Man said: ↑

He's certainly no James Francis Ryan, is he?
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Charles Robert Jenkins seems a more appropriate comparison. Jenkins was convicted of desertion, served 30 days in military prison, and was dishonorably discharged. That's the precedent, although I don't think Obama has the balls to do right by those who died looking for this scumbag.

3RA1N1AC · Jun 2, 2014

do deserters really rile you guys up or something?

PapaG · Jun 2, 2014

3RA1N1AC said: ↑

do deserters really rile you guys up or something?
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When 6 soldiers die looking for him ... yeah. At the very least, don't have a huge press conference trying to make the deserter into a hero, but Obama can't stay away from the cameras, and needed a shiny object to distract from the VA death panels.

BLAZER PROPHET · Jun 2, 2014

riverman said: ↑

That's not a future worry for me, it's been an on-going practice for thousands of years. This one came down to the only American held prisoner against how many Taliban it takes to screw in a lightbulb when there's a goat in the room
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This.

3RA1N1AC · Jun 2, 2014

well, its not his fault that the soldiers died

he certainly doesnt sound like much of a hero though

PapaG · Jun 2, 2014

http://www.cnn.com/2014/06/01/us/bergdahl-deserter-or-hero/

I was pissed off then and I am even more so now with everything going on,” said former Sergeant Matt Vierkant, a member of Bergdahl’s platoon when he went missing on June 30, 2009. “Bowe Bergdahl deserted during a time of war and his fellow Americans lost their lives searching for him.”

Vierkant said Bergdahl needs to not only acknowledge his actions publicly but face a military trial for desertion under the Uniform Code of Military Justice.

A reporter asked Defense Secretary Chuck Hagel Sunday whether Bergdahl had left his post without permission or deserted — and, if so, whether he would be punished. Hagel didn’t answer directly. “Our first priority is assuring his well-being and his health and getting him reunited with his family,” he said. “Other circumstances that may develop and questions, those will be dealt with later.”
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PapaG · Jun 2, 2014

riverman said: ↑

That's not a future worry for me, it's been an on-going practice for thousands of years. This one came down to the only American held prisoner against how many Taliban it takes to screw in a lightbulb when there's a goat in the room
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You may want to read the WikiLeaks files on the 5 Taliban members released. That way, you won't seem so ignorant on this subject. These weren't 5 goat herders picked up out of a field.

3RA1N1AC · Jun 2, 2014

im thinking they have been reconditioned into reeks

PapaG · Jun 2, 2014

3RA1N1AC said: ↑

im thinking they have been reconditioned into reeks
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Ramsey Snow is running Gitmo!

PapaG · Jun 2, 2014

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/201...nce-community-investigated-bergdahls-conduct/

"A senior official confirms to Fox News that the conduct of Sgt. Bergdahl – both in his final stretch of active duty in Afghanistan and then, too, during his time when he lived among the Taliban – has been thoroughly investigated by the U.S. intelligence community and is the subject of “a major classified file.”

The Defense Department source confirmed to Fox News that many within the intelligence community harbor serious outstanding concerns not only that Bergdahl may have been a deserter but that he may have been an active collaborator with the enemy.

Sources also tell Fox News that many officials in the executive branch are “quite baffled” by the White House’s decision to allow the president to stand alongside Sgt. Bergdahl’s father in the Rose Garden this past weekend, given the father’s history of statements, emails and online posts."
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PapaG · Jun 2, 2014

I wonder if Bergdahl would still rather be living with the Taliban? Sounds like there are quite of few people upset about this in the Pentagon.

Another administration official, whose duties are focused on counterterrorism, told Fox News when asked about the status of any investigations into Bergdahl's initial disappearance and his conduct over the last five years: "Everybody's looking at this. He's not going to get a free pass" in the interrogations that Bergdahl will face during his repatriation process. "He's going to have a lot of questions to answer -- a lot. Is he a hero? No."
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Denny Crane · Jun 2, 2014

crandc said: ↑

Israel has released large numbers of Hamas prisoners for even a single Isreali soldier. The sainted Ronald Reagan traded arms for hostages and used proceeds to illegally fund a war.

A lot more than 6 years ago.
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Reagan didn't trade arms for hostages.

Iran held no hostages. Lebanon held 7 americans hostages. Lebanon received no arms from the USA.

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PapaG · Jun 2, 2014

Mother of one of those who died looking for Bergdahl speaks out. I wonder if she'll get to stand by Obama's side at a press conference hailing her deceased son as a hero?

http://www.armytimes.com/article/20140602/NEWS/306020055/Gold-Star-mom-guy-worth-my-son-s-life-

B]Gold Star mom: 'This guy was worth my son's life?'[/B]

Sondra Andrews’ son, 2nd Lt. Darryn Andrews, is one of six soldiers killed reportedly while searching for Sgt. Bowe Bergdahl.

The sergeant’s return to captivity has stirred “very raw emotions.”

“It gets really hurtful when I think, this guy was worth my son’s life? My son who was patriotic? Who was a true soldier? Who defended his country with his life?” Andrews told Army Times via phone on Monday. “That guy was worth that? I don’t think so.”

Andrews also was upset to hear the U.S. government agreed to release five prisoners from Guantanamo Bay in exchange for Bergdahl’s freedom.

“I bet you anything there were soldiers killed or wounded capturing those five guys,” she said. “So what does that do for their sacrifice? They sacrificed for nothing, because they turned right around and let them go.”

Bergdahl disappeared June 30, 2009, from a base in Paktika province, near the border with Pakistan.

He and Darryn Andrews were deployed with 1st Battalion, 501st Parachute Infantry Regiment, 4th Brigade Combat Team, 25th Infantry Division.

Soldiers who say they served with Bergdahl have since spoken out on social media and in news reports that the then-Pfc. abandoned his post, wandering away from the combat outpost on his own. Many expressed anger that soldiers were killed while searching for Bergdahl.

Darryn Andrews was one of those men.

He was killed Sept. 4, 2009, when enemy forces attacked his vehicle with an improvised explosive device and a rocket-propelled grenade, according to the Defense Department notice announcing his death. He was 34.

The military told the Andrews family that their soldier died after a mission to capture a top Taliban fighter, Sondra Andrews said.

“By omission, we assumed they were just pursuing the Taliban,” she said. “Then the guys [Darryn Andrews served with] started contacting me. They said, ‘No, ma’am, we were looking for [Bergdahl].’ ”

Sondra Andrews said she’s “very angry” that the military didn’t contact the family before announcing Bergdahl’s recovery.

“They didn’t have enough respect for us to give us the consideration of letting us know, especially since Darryn was part of that mission,” she said. “As a mother, you’re like, ‘what else have they not told us?’ ”

Within hours of Bergdahl’s disappearance, her son and his soldiers went out on foot patrols to search for him, Sondra Andrews said.

“They found his gear. They knew [he’d left],” she said. “You don’t get captured and leave your gear in neat little stacks. They knew he had walked away from his post.”

Sondra Andrews said she wants to see a full investigation into Bergdahl and the circumstances surrounding his disappearance and captivity.

“The military really owes the parents of these fallen soldiers the truth,” she said. “Just the fact that they’re calling that man a hero just took me to my knees.”

Sondra Andrews said she wants people to know her son was a good man and a good leader who always wanted to join the Army. Darryn Andrew’s son was just 2 years old when his father was killed. His daughter was born four months later.

“He was a wonderful father and family man, an amazing son, a great brother,” she said.
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PapaG · Jun 2, 2014

Here is some WikiLeaks information on the 5 "goat herders" that Obama traded for a deserter.

https://wikileaks.org/gitmo/pdf/af/us9af-000007dp.pdf

Denny Crane · Jun 2, 2014

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/06/02/w...-figures-offers-rare-view.html?ref=world&_r=0

Mediocre Man · Jun 2, 2014

I wonder how many civilian American lives our beloved President just put at risk by releasing these high level Taliban soldiers for this piece of shit?

PapaG · Jun 2, 2014

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I wonder how many civilian American lives our beloved President just put at risk by releasing these high level Taliban soldiers for this piece of shit?
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Do you think he gives a fuck? He had to push the VA deaths off of the news cycle.

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