US captive soldier in Afghanistan exchanged for 5 Guantanamo detainees

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  1. MarAzul

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    Look dip stick, I don't give a shit about Hitler, we dealt with him very appropriately. Now we have our own walking that walk and we need to deal with him too, not deflect the issue with mindless outrage
     
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    A more definition of evil would be each and every human being who obeyed his orders and were the actual murderers in nearly all of those deaths.

    Hitler was simply a man demanding that others do his dirty work. The evil ones did, the good ones didn't.
     
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    If you don't want to deflect the issues, stop making stupid posts trying to compare Obama to Hitler, fucking dip stick.
     
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  4. MarAzul

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    The objective, then, was far greater than merely sing six million unemployed back to work. It was to achieve a total transformation.

    This was in accord with a basic principle of Obama's: no power without the freely given approval of the people. He used to say:
    "If you can win mastery over the people only by imposing the power of the state, you'd better figure on a nine o'clock curfew."

    "I am not a dictator," Obama had often affirmed, "and I never will be. Democracy will be rigorously enforced by my administration."


    Authority does not mean tyranny. A tyrant is someone who puts himself in power without the will of the people or against the will of the people.
    A democrat is placed in power by the people. But democracy is not limited to a single formula. It may be partisan or parliamentary.
    Or it may be authoritarian. The important thing is that the people have wished it, chosen it, established it in its given form.

    **I took the liberty of substituting Obama for a very famous Dictator in the above copy of history record.**



    Obama's Executive action plan. *********************************

    "American workers, including a higher minimum wage and extension of longterm unemployment insurance.

    But he also sketched out more than a dozen ways in which he intends to use executive powers to try to boost the economy,
    a recognition by the president that he is running out of time to achieve his goals in the face of hardening Republican opposition.

    “What I offer tonight is a set of concrete, practical proposals to speed up growth, strengthen the middle class,
    and build new ladders of opportunity into the middle class. Some require Congressional action, and I’m eager to work with all of you.
    But America does not stand still — and neither will I,” Obama planned to say, according to excerpts released ahead of the speech by the White House.

    “So wherever and whenever I can take steps without legislation to expand opportunity for more American families, that’s what I’m going to do.”"

    This power has been demonstrated to enclude,

    Immigration law enforcement.
    Minumum Wage law.
    Obama Care,
    Colaboration with the enemy
    Environmental law/Rules
    Probably more.

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    Hitlers Executive action plan. *************************************


    "Laws may be promulgated by the Reich government apart from the procedures provided for by the Constitution ...

    Laws promulgated by the Reich government may deviate from the Constitution provided they do not
    change the position of the Reichstag or of the Reichsrat. The powers of the Reich President are not changed.

    Laws promulgated by the Reich government will be prepared by the Chancellor and published in the "Official Journal."
    Unless otherwise specified, they become effective on the day following publication ...

    Treaties concluded by the Reich with foreign states that concern matters of national
    legislation do not require ratification by the legislative bodies.
    The Reich government is empowered to issue the regulations necessary for their execution. "

    At the time this decree was issued, the Nazi's had not killed a single Jew, yet.


    The last power statement by the Chancellor seems just like Obama negotiating with the current enemy combatants , unilateral reaching
    deal to return their people while still at war is damn close. By law this should have required Congress but they had rejected it
    several times in the past The rest also picked up by Obamas gang, picking a chosing which laws to enforce or even altering them by unilateral executive decree.
     
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    I must be missing where the GOP advocated releasing 5 senior Taliban members for Bergdahl. McCain seems to be saying Bergdahl should be back, which he should, to face charges, but that the cost was too high. I also mst have missed where Ayotte said get him back, even if it means releasing Gitmo prisoners.

    HuffPo isn't big on nuance, though, along with most partisan political sites, left or right, and the White House and their media are furiously trying to deflect blame for a boneheaded decision that went against the advice of both the intel community and the Pentagon.
     
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    I bet we've turned at least one of those Taliban fuckers.
     
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    I doubt it.
     
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    Maybe we shot them up with some kind of isotopes that we can track and monitor.
     
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    Really? I think torturing and breaking detainees was one of the few things that Bush, Cheney and Rumsfeld did well.
     
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    Didn't only 3 people actually get waterboarded? One of the them was the guy who looked like Rosie O'Donnell with body hair, and he did give up intel.

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    And you think water boarding is best or only way to mess with a m'fers mind? I bet we got skillz.
     
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    Anything more than waterboarding and we'd know about it.
     
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    Aren't you saying that Obama is always trying to cover things up. Maybe there are things he successfully covered up that we will never know about????
     
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    No. I think he's too incompetent to have plans that need to be covered up.

    It's the "fly by the seat of our pants" presidency.
     
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    We all knew where Bin Laden was months before he was killed.
     
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    Years, actually. At least the military knew where he was.
     
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    So the military is competent enough to hunt down and kill a terrorist but not competent enough to mind fuck one?

    I guess I have a higher opinion of our military's capabilities than you do.
     
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    I don't think tourists have anything to do with it, but I'll play along and guess you meant terrorists. :cheers:

    No, I don't think any of these 5 senior leaders have been "flipped" and will be double-agents. That's the first thing any competent group would suspect, and they would monitor calls, emails, and the like from any prisoner released back to their custody. Seems logical to me. Maybe you'd just assume that your returned prisoners would be 100% on your side upon return, but I'm just too distrusting and too cynical to not account for that potential deadly error. They should, and will, be watched closely at all times in terms of their communications with anyone outside of their network of Taliban people.

    Reading your posts here for years, I doubt it. Nice attempt to troll, though.
     
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    Another funny theory I've been reading is that the US somehow put GPS monitors in these 5 guys. Any military group worth a shit would scan all 5 of these guys through a basic airport full-body scanner, at the very least, to see if there are any inorganic bodies that have been injected in them. Unless, of course, the US has an organic tracking device that nobody on earth has invented yet. Maybe Obama invented it while he was filling out his March Madness bracket?
     

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